colin

ya make a market, like a bid and an ask. so like, 5 years at 10 years means you think it will be 5 or less years, but not longer than 10 years. basically playing over under.

so, anyone want to make a market on how long this guy will last before going bankrupt?

this would be a strong thing for the team if we had fewer needs and more cap. i don't see how we could fit him in, but i suppose anything is possible. we absolutely need an upgrade at wr, and possibly 2, but we should be able to get that with a couple draft picks. we need a new 1t (or resign d jones) starter, and we need 2 more DTs and 2 more DEs. some cheapos can fill in, but some picks will be needed too. we also need at least 1 new starting safety, maybe 2, and we lost our two back ups as well. presuming all of that is completed (and we clear up 50 sticks in cap, MY GOSH SO MUCH) and he's on a fairly reasonable contract, then ya DHen might be a big addition to the team. part of the issue we have on o is altho the top line production is very good, and our qb is the goat (ill fight you on this) and our OL is more than solid, the drop off from our 1s to our 2s is SHOCKING. cook to murray is awful, TJ is ok tho. diggs to davis is a big drop, and davis to the next guy on the roster is awful. kinkaid to knox (14mm for like 9 games and a couple nice catches and more drops) is a bad drop off too. if henry means we can run mostly the same stuff w cook and him and get those great 1st down runs we've often gotten with brady, then he could be a huge get. if our d is gonna falter some over the regs, and be what it has always been in the playoffs (sharp disgusting cheeks) then having a better run game to just play keep away might be completely necessary.

everyone was being horrible to me and disagreeing with my post! for real tho, purdy stinks. he has a paint by numbers offense that he just has to follow the recipe on, and an embarrassment of talent all over the shop, but just made continued fundamental errors down the stretch, as well as obviously not having the dynamic ability or athleticism to make a single thing happen off script. obviously the special teams disasters were what sunk the 9ers, but if they moved the ball just a little here and there they could have scored another td (including off of the horrendous pick that mahomes threw) or more. i don't really care about the 9ers, but i hate kc and hate the fact i had to root for those dumb clowns to stop kc from another ring.

i don't know what should work out price wise, but if he was the qb for sf, they beat kc in the bowl.

this is one of the defensive scheme issues IMO. tactically maybe it's great to have fresh legs on the d line running up the field all day, but there is the tactical issue of putting in some trash player because your starter has to have his "rest" more than you should. logistically, these schematic tactics result in a lot of picks and cap stuck on the bench, or perhaps coming along more slowly than you'd like. it also certainly doesn't result in fewer injuries. the reality is we have settle, ford, lawson, and phillips, all like absolute jag level guys who we signed cheap. they get a ton of burn on our team. im sort of hoping mcbean finds jesus here, and he's shown signs of it by playing oliver more at least, but we need be more adaptable on D in terms of not being locked into these awful contracts, and getting young high picks out there when we need to play them.

elam and williams not being able to get burn in the divisional game so we just agree to lose somewhat more slowly (mainly by holding the ball on o no less) is a coaching/scheme issue. if you can't alter your recipe to work with the ingredients on hand, then you aren't a chef who can cook for all occasions. mccoach's addiction to "safe" d players has us tying up a huge chunk of our cap on old slow and injured guys. if some of the von, tre, milano, poyer, hyde money went to some kind of fast wr who can play or a younger pass rusher we'd maybe have won vs kc and would be in a better stich going into the next season.

it would be nice to have dq jones back, but i suspect he's worth more in FA than he is to the bills. AJ im almost certain of it. dq didn't contribute meaningfully vs kc, and he played only a handful of games all season. we have enough tied up in knox, milano, and von who are hurt too much, it seems a bad risk to add another, especially at that age. i have a funny feeling for no real reason that there might be a trade (where a team picks up cap on diggs) with diggs for another wr (i could see SF or Dallas being a potential trade partner). diggs for sure makes the team better, and never misses time, but that contract vs his playoff production is a bear. if we get a rook wr who performs how kinkaid did his rook year, and just restock the d, i think we are a better team next year in the playoffs than we were this year, and we were pretty close.

that's a really good point to emphasize. we are in an awful cap/contract situation. the upside i keep blabbing about is that the guys we will lose don't really have a big impact anymore, so we can afford to lose them. losing out some guys on D which gave up 7.7 a play and a forced one single punt in the divisional round, same guys who got trucked by cinci at home last year, well, i think we can give up 7.7 with a bunch of rooks and some cheapo fa guys, heck maybe even 7.5! we are also down our starting wr who didn't even play, was involved in a shocking % of allen's picks (particular on a per target basis) and who had 2 or less catches in what, half the games of the year or something? if we can get production out of williams, elam, and von, and not lose milano and our top 3 (4?) corners we are a better d than we've had in the playoffs ever, and we will exceed that if we get some good rookie production too. on O, we need 2 or 3 guys who are better than davis (who wasn't playing, so trivially possible), harty, and sherf. haines coming back might be better in passing than the last two and a rookie who can play or two can round that out. mcd has to learn his lesson, but i think there are signs he is learning. knox finding health and diggs not falling off a cliff are also our opportunities to excel.

i come to this board to get some entertainment and info on lots of stuff around the league and draft stuff. i honestly don't understand how you guys can just stomach the general sports media. i watch like 10 min clips that are linked here to whatever show on nfl or espn and they start off w some bills content (that's why they are linked here). even then, i've not made it through a full one. just sitting there and watching and listening to these people would turn me off of the nfl and perhaps even the bills entirely. i used to be into some of the gambling guys because they used more interesting metrics, but even that has gotten crowded with lots of junk. not all heroes wear capes, but many of them post here.

coaching is what is killing us in the playoffs more than anything. the injuries on d were awful, and we were close to beating kc, so i do see a trend of the coaching improving, but we have a couple humps to get over. 1. the scheme defensively relies on too many reads and reactions and gets exploited and doesn't adjust quickly enough. the playoff stats bare this out. 2. perhaps related to the above, the scheme is so complicated or whatever that there is just no fit for elam and williams, two capable but young guys who rode the bench while crippled douglas and bait and tackle aj were out there getting smoked. and douglas in his poor state wasn't as bad as the other cb! my evidence here is we stopped kc zero times and got walked on with aj, and then when williams went in he was a physical beast who made plays even after getting called for a ticky tacky PI and forced the only punt, and one of what 4 punts total in 3 playoff games?!??!! vs kc. somewhat related, platooning expensive fas and high picks on DL but having only 2 people on the roster who can play safety in our scheme leaves us in a bind where we have a lot of resources on the bench on any given down but when a safety goes down we are still without representation. the glimmer, i suppose, of hope is that oliver, our best dl, got way way more snaps the past season than anyone did before, and eventually even in the kc debacle mccoach relented and inserted the mistake prone but force of nature capable williams in and got a stop. just a matter of too little too late for that game, but i presume he's learning and will amend.

the downside is we are in a horrible cap situation. the upside is, we are getting such poor production from so many guys who are either leaving (with a couple exceptions) or big contracts (diggs sorta kinda, milano, tre, von, knox for obv reasons) that the bar isn't that high to get better production form the players who play next season.

a mass shooting is defined as where 4 or more people are shot. not that the all died, or are even seriously injured. it doesn't have to be just one shooter or gun, so if two guys shoot at each other, hit each other and some other people, it's a mass shooting, and so is whatever happened in vegas that produced zero photos or videos (someone really should set up cameras or something in vegas some day).

does anyone else get ole miss vibes back when aj brown, kc metcalf, and dawson knox came out with LSU this year? it feels to me like their 1 and 2 wr's both look like they have a shot to be a number 1 in the nfl. maybe im wrong, i dunno.

the nfl is a regulated trust, and they should not be permitted to do things which are consumer predatory, but they always do.

getting out of the diggs contract and maybe getting any kind of value for him (dallas trade? just my imagination) would be a coup we need to hit on at least 1 wr in the draft, and restock the DL and safeties with el cheapo fas and rookies. ideally we have diggs return to 2020 form and draft a rookie, but im wondering if he's long for this team.

so what is the word? is something like a trade to dallas where dallas sends picks/players and eats some of the cap hit we'd take possible?

I welcome Jim's rants to the board! we need people with different takes and particularly who challenge feel good trash themes on here. I saw a podcast w shannon sharp and charles ochocinco. the short of it is ocho was being fairly dovish talking about how guys coming off of injury need time and we have to accept their poor performance, and shannon was being militant saying there is an expectation that post injury or not, when a player plays there is an expectation of their performance. von has been absolute trash, tre was bad but maybe not trash at the end of last season (certainly not good) and was ok to start this season but obviously got hurt again. in this podcast, examples of heroic returns of some great players, and rapid returns to play no less, were cited. guys coming off acl in the same year to ball out. 20+ years ago. tre also expressed concern about covid, and playing during the covid thing. he's cleary got concerns about health, which is not ideal for a football player coming off of his second massive season ending injury. he's also not starting out as the fastest cb either, so these injuries won't help that at all. kc wouldn't keep this guy, why should we?

im of the radical opinion that we should just give much more playing time to our young guys like elam and williams who actually make plays (along with mistakes) instead of old and injured guys who allow 7.7 yards per play type numbers in our annual defensive playoff collapse exits, but i'm a silly extremist fan who wants to win and stuff.

so joe marino had a couple good breakdowns of kcs roster and ours. they didn't REALLY draft so much better than we did since like 2019 or 2020 -- better but they had more picks from trading hill and such. anyhow, the real difference between us and them is they let aging vets walk. i don't know that knox counts as an aging vet, but they also let some above replacement guys walk if they think they can replace them w picks. bass, knox, poy, hyde, diggs, these are contracts that they almost certainly would not have gotten trapped under. i think white back when he was extended would have been extended by them as well, and i think us signing von is similar to the top dollars they have paid for OTs. they have also traded picks for players just like we have, and they have had hits and misses on picks like us. i think they might have skipped out on long deals for von aged guys, but we will see w chris jones and the like. so our teams are super close, but our cap is not because mcbean love love love old slow expensive d guys. i think part and parcel of that is his allergy to playing young guys, hence dorian williams only had a chance to stop one drive in the divisional round while aj klien hummed jimmy buffet songs from 5 yards back. 5 yards back from the correct gap, mind you!

i agree with the implication (which i read as we would not have a chip if all that changed was we got mahomes instead of allen). i think mahomes is great, and an all timer. i think allen is better. the one game mahomes had on the big stage with poor protection (vs tb when his tackles got hurt) we saw him not make plays even though he had an all star roster of targets when he was running around. we expect allen to run around every couple snaps and make the big play. we are obviously not as good as the chiefs because we lost to them in the playoffs, but it's pretty simple: our D was like wet toilet paper. SF has a much better d than we do (at least in the super bowl vs our last game this season) but the folded too eventually because they were predictable and gassed and kc just called simple plays to beat them over and over again. to get over the hump we obv need a playmaker on O to emerge (davis is meh, but no davis is worse than having davis), and just find a way for the d to be like average in the playoffs.

trading the mahomes pick was obv a horrible move, but im convinced allen is better. in the TB super bowl, mahomes didn't have good protection and couldn't buy a play even with hill and kelce. once the OL faltered, so did he. allen makes plays with unblocked guys every sunday, and allen is the only guy bring the heat in the playoffs on this team. kc has had brilliant roster management and lots of luck and great coaching. our biggest issue is staying old and expensive on D, not to mention that aged and costly d folding so hard every playoffs.

kc won last night because san fran choked and made mistakes and kc didnt, it's is just that simple. the poor kick in the extra point, and the fool up field blocking while the punt returner was yelling peter, which was a gift wrapped 7 points was the game. obv kc has better coaching and a better qb and etc etc etc yadda yadda yadda. kc gets suffocated for the entire second half if idiot san fran adjusted their play calling, or more importantly didnt' make awful amateur errors. kc beat us because we had the ghost of aj klien starting (with a fresh rookie riding the pine, smart!), and they beat baltimore because playoff lamer choked and handed them 7 w a foolish fumble (and that fool wr got a 15 yarder and made up for it with a silly reach fumble short of the end zone). this is all exactly like new england. kc is winning tight games because they are better prepared and make fewer errors.

in the nfl, especially now, the qb is most important guy on the team. you can argue that great coaching and a decent back up will mean the qb1 is less valuable (like how the back up scored a near 100 yard drive for kc vs jax in the playoffs last season!) but for any non qb to get that award, the impact on winning of that non qb going down vs the qb doing down has to be stand out. so like, if hill drops is his team worse off than if tua drops? maybe, but hill clearly isn't as important to his team winning as lamar is for the ravens, or allen for us. my thing w lamar is that he is so not clutch. his back up nearly beat cinci 2 times last year, and lamar lays the same egg at the end of every playoffs. he's just too limited of a player.

i don't think it could possibly happen, but given where we are at lb and dl, it would be interesting to see the bills go to a 3-3 nickle base. we'd need a couple massive plugs at nose, and another big strong DE or two, but the upside would be we'd not have to platoon as many old over priced DLs all the time, and we'd have more room to be creative in the pass rush. im thinking it's all cyclical, and edge guys and off ball LBs have become super sought after at high prices in the nfl, so big strong lbs (say in the dorian williams mold, rather than some 1995 style DT that lines up 3 yards back) and massive space eating monsters in the guy are cheaper now. also, guys like groot and oliver are near ideal 3-4 ends.