colin

Lamar is terrible in the playoffs, just stinks. Looking at that board linked, I legit think a fair number of the posters there are mentally handicapped. Some were at least cogent, and some had what read like hilarious inside jokes about the excuses for Lamar.

I hate kc so much. Sadly, playoff Lamar seems to be showing up just in time. We'd be smoking these ravens, even w the UPS guys on d

we pretty much have to make him dc cuz of this, right?

and 20 weeks in he hadn't figured anything out to perhaps earn a start over a man who has no place on an nfl roster? we had a single stop, one single stop, all day. williams made one, was robbed w a cheap call, and came out and made another to force a punt w the season on the line. and once again, you are simply making a just so argument without considering what we saw, we saw certain defeat with aj, plays by williams, and plays by elam. what was elam going to do, allow the same zero stops that we were giving up? oh noes! and as i mentioned above, we can't prep a guy or make a change in the scheme? simply not possible? mcd is said to live at the facility, i think all evidence shows he is too stubborn, at least at times, and was clearly so vs kc until it was too late (he did put williams in)

either we consistently get players who are just soo stupid then can't play football (which means we are fools in player evaluation) or our scheme is a bit too clever by half or it's a combo of that and mcd just not trusting new guys but instead leaning too hard on vets and not being flexible on D. either that or we don't actually know how to coach basic football. i think it's pretty clear w guys like williams and milano not getting burn early, rotating cbs and OTs, and guys like cook getting sent to the gulags off of one fumble that mcd is slow to trust young guys or just is a bit too much of a perfectionist. my evidence: elam vs pitts and williams vs kc made full on great plays. maybe they don't get a start over a full roster, but guys who are really too hurt to play should not be in over them.

imo he hasn't written it yet, if it is to come. if he did something like change as needed on D vs kc to allow guys like elam and williams to contribute since our starters were all hurt, and it had some kind of effectiveness vs kc, then we win that game and he looks like a genius. he needs to deliver that in a post season game for me to say he's shown his best. ironically, our d got way tougher when williams went in over the ghost of klien (yes i know they swapped 25 and maybe slightly dift positions and assignments, but the room was made on the pitch). elam made a huge play in the prior week too.

the solution is to not be so mired in a scheme which at all times requires players that you don't have (due to not signing them or injury). a dc should be able to come up w a d that doesn't require benching a wrecking ball in favor of someone who is no longer a pro football player. kinda reminds me of the knock on rex, his scheme was too demanding and not enough guys could run it. billacheat has come up w entirely different ds for different situations (what they came up w for the rams in the chip was a master class). i've had issues w our d structurally in the past. the proof is in the pudding, and we've been cheeks in 5 straight play off losses.

the rooney rule has goofy aspects to it, but it gives teams a really good cover to talk to people in a situation like ours. normally, brady would have earned his stay, so going out and talking to guys would potentially create some static back home. since you HAVE to talk to some minority candidates via the rule, you'd look like you were discriminating the other way if you didn't also look at other guys (minority or otherwise, you can't just like talk to one minority coach, it seems too much like following letter and not spirit of the rule). in the end, you talk to a lot of people w ideas, and you can sort of grill your internal guy with the ideas you hear from other coaches. the team has to do so, so brady can't take it personal and no one like josh or others who just want to see him hired can say it's the wrong move either. the down side is what we are seeing, since 2022 every single team has changed oc, assistant coaches will not stay for long.

that's a really good point. if he replaces 11 and 28, then we can draft a banger back in like the 6th round or something and have our RB room complete, and rookie can go to st if needed or whatever. joe marino of locked on bills mentioned we went from being ranked 1st in special teams to not so good in one year. aside from bass losing his damn mind, hines was the missing bit. big returns win games, and who knows, maybe the kid can use his insane speed on o once in a while. i have much more faith in brady or his replacement than dorsey

i watched the vid on the post above mine, he really doesn't look like he has 4.27 speed.

4.27 40 is legit burner speed, is that a college game program factoid or an electronically timed legit result? we need various people all over, but to me this offseason we need 1 rb and 2 wrs, including at least 1 wr who is a day 1 starter. beyond that, we need S, DE, and DT most of all. wr 1st and 2nd round (we did that w DEs, one of whom blew, the other is decent) and we need to hit on both. beyond that, im all good with just filling out the roster w players in positions we can use.

true, but the oline was worse.

before reading this thread i was good w keeping brady, but the point is a strong one -- this is the best place for any oc on earth to land right now. i've got to think we should reach out and get whoever is the best guy.

i agree. while we might pick d players, and they might be great picks, i think we have to come away from this offseason addressing wr in both the draft and if possible FA. said another way -- some bargain guys and late round draft picks filling out our roster could get us the same deffensive performance we had vs kc, namely a trash one. just one more wr at the top, and or a couple wrs filling out the list instead of 16 and 11, and we score 10+ more points and walk away winners.

so my silly take: back in the day, the RB1 was the most important skill guy on the team, in some cases more than the qb. the teams and the culture and what not were structured so that you really wanted a monster as your rb1. ricky williams, edge james, LT, AP, even as recently as marshawn, you had these guys who by themselves made your o run and made you better. that's changed, you now have great rbs, but they are devalued, and rb is a a platoon position no matter who the team is. you also have different rbs who do different things on teh same team. i think wr has become what rb1 was back in the day. the true wr1 is a guy who can by himself ball out and make things happen, the d has to double him, or account for him, or whatever. him being in makes all the other pass catchers better. anyhow, based on this, there aren't that many true wr1s in the nfl, cinci might have 2. miami perhaps, but im not so sure. and that also means diggs, by this rather restrictive analysis, is not quote a wr1. he's a great player, a top flight player, but he does not make other pass catchers better, or more open. he does not draw double coverage, he wasn't even covered by sneed on some snaps. it also explains why his second halves and stuff fall off so hard. he's doing a lot of work to get open, and has generally great hands, but he doesn't show up huge in big games (he tends not to show up at all) and having beez and brown and davis made him better, at least as much as the other way around.

we might get a 3rd comp pick for edmunds, but we have a lot of like 5th and 5th round picks, like 11 picks total we are going to have to let guys go for cap savings, and guys are off contract too (von and groot are our only signed DEs). we will have low round picks getting burn at DT and DE, and likely safety too. cb when healthy we are good (we could cut tre imo, but we have tre, douglas, elam, benford for 2 spots), and LB we have an oddly deep group (dodson, milano, williams, TB, spector). given how zero impact our safeties and DL had vs kc, i'm fine w that. time for mcd to make chicken salad out of chicken poop on D. we need to get better on O, and just fill out the roster otherwise. I expect a thumper RB to get drafted, at least 2 DL, and 1 S, but we need a real stud WR more than anything and can just find street FAs to fill in lots of spaces on D. cripes, we had aj klien doing SFA in our biggest game

ill take him, but there will prolly be a better wr target for the money given we have shakir. we need a guy to go deep and catch passes on the outside. he might cost too much, but i'd love to see a tee higgins or some such be added to diggs on the outside. with kinkaid, cook, and shakir doing what they can in the middle, imo a real guy on the outside puts us over the top. seeing 16 or 11 lined up outside one on one on 2nd and 3rd down its just a waste imo. 16 got smacked on the hands with two bombs and never came close to making a play. we can get better than that production out of shorter or any like 5th or 6th round rookie.

IMO this is incontrovertible. also, the diggs pass wasn't actually open like it looked like from the camera view from the right hand side of the field, the jones/dawkins mess was between him and diggs. josh saw dawk on jones and early and just trusted his pro bowl lt to make the block, and he nearly did it just fell apart late. imo josh made the absolute right call going with our best performing offensive player for a score. i also felt like we went from being a joke on with the ghost of aj being a target on every snap (they face their what, 4th or 5th 3rd down on their penultimate drive?, we didn't even slow them down) to bodying up and making it mad hard with dorian williams being a relentless savage. makes me think if we are up by 4, we legit have a shot at stopping a touchdown.

ok, i watched a podcast this morning with shannon sharp and chad ochocinco (his legal name i think, lol). anyhow, they had a debate about coming back from injury, coming off of an acl tear. chad was defending von, shannon was pretty militant about how if a player can be on the field, there are expectations that must be met. he pointed out in 1997 jerry rice tore his acl early in the season/pre season and palyed week 16 and balled out. rod woodson tore his acl week one and played vs cowboys in teh super bowl and was decent, if not great. terrell owens broke his ankle week 14, played in the super bowl w the eagles vs the pats, and was the best player on the field and frankly should have lead his team to a win but for old andy reid and out of shape mcnabb. adrian peterson tore his acl and came back the next season and played at a basically mvp level. all of these injuries were 10+ years ago, some over 25 years! i think tre white and vonn miller did not do everything they could to rehab as best as possible. guys like peterson and owens were known to be total workout warriors who never took a day off and played with insane intensity. in my mind, we have josh allen, matt milano, and at times stef diggs (i think something has been off w him and i don't think ownes or peterson would consistently now show like he does in the playoffs) who will play like absolute dogs and who i expect to will themselves via diligent rehab and hard work back to playing at their highest level. we've seen von get frustrated and after getting washed on a play put no effort in prior to the whistle this season. to me, that is such a clear sign of where he is in his career/dedication and how i figure he rehabbed. he was benched for performance and he agreed with it. in away that shows maturity, but in another way it shows a lack of fire. ownes, peterson, etc would be livid if they were benched, and i don't think they'd ever be in a position to not be giving the max effort.

that's like 5x the ratings of the nba finals last year. the nfl as much as we and for sure me like to complain is giving a product the public wants. the nba is going back to its own roots of being a sort of regional fringe league, altho the players are still eating off of mikey jordan and get insane endorsements. i stopped caring about basketball a while back, but i've seen so many reels and vids of insane non called travels it's laughable. i don't like how some of the calls went on sunday, but at least they aren't calling bounce passes as complete.

i thought we were gonna do it, but that's based on being (for me) zen after we were 6-6. going into the kc game, knowing douglas wasn't right, no benford, and no TB at linebacker, i had super low confidence. also -- aj klien shoudla stayed sat, or maybe as a back up, and we shoulda put williams in. elam too. rather a high pick young guy who might make mistakes but will make plays than an old zero or a hurt guy who can't stay up. still, even if im right and elam and williams woulda been hard upgrades, i was strongly doubtful vs kc. if tb and douglas never go down, not to mention spector, then i woulda felt like we win it.

we have, more or less, one premier player who is clutch, and that is josh allen. the numbers of us folding hard in the offseason due to defensive failings are true and obvious, but unless we add a player or two who are clutch monsters on d, and that seems unlikely, our best chance to win it all is to support josh allen who has come close to winning it vs kc himself twice now. our d is gonna fall off some next year w guys leaving, and it really doesn't matter. they blew plenty of games including this last one. when it comes to the big time stuff, josh allen is like no other and we need to build on strength. i think the way we get over this hump is make our O as deadly as it can be adding via draft, trade, free agency, kidnapping, human cloning, i don't care; weapons. WRs who give us things we dont have. speed, size, hands. we need to add a top flight guy, and other guys too. in 2020 we had zilch production from RB and from TE, and our Oline was pretty weak (cody ford, that dude from the jets at RT, we had some real slugs out there) but our o was massive because diggs and aging brown and beez gave allen too much to work with. now that we have rbs, blocking, and TE play, we gotta go over the top and just boat race teams. i trust mc corch to turn a less talented d into an equally effective d to what we've seen the last 5 playoff exits, at least.

i dig he doesn't want to talk to the media, deep down he knows how poorly he has played. he's been a lesser player than shakir for the last month or so. failed totally to get open vs the kc d (one on one) for the majority of the night and when he did get open he straight up drops a dime to the ground. not a way to win play off games. it's been put out there recently, he's a huge no show in all of our playoff losses. at this point i think we are a better team without him, putting that money to work on another wr. i remember someone was posting here that we woulda been way better off keeping the pick and taking the wr minni took. i disagreed at the time, but oh my, how right they were.

i still say we had to go for 7, but i feel you on this fellow jersey bills fan. what i noticed, and i might be coloring my view because of my decided personal bias, but once dorian williams went in for aj, we started bodying fools. sometimes you need an enforcer, and by sometimes i mean at all times.

No matter how this ends, this is hi drama