colin

I like the result, but like alpha and a few others have pointed out, our wrs can't do jack to get open vs man. Just getting blanketed one on one

allen has definitely missed guys or thrown the odd bad ball. seems to be regressing and to not have the same wide open ability he showed last year. NE smashed us by confusing allen, overwhelming our blockers, and then knocking allen out. we still rushed for a good clip w frank gore barely moving that game tho. I have two problems with Dabol. 1: he chooses not to run the ball, rather than have it shut down. nothing will help a raw qb as much as that 2: he really tries to put a square peg into a round hole. Him rushing gore umpteen times on 3rd/4th and short for nothing, having our barely qualified for an NFL roster WRs running around failing to beat DBs, and having our raw inconsistent QB trying to be tom brady behind our good run and not so good pass blocking line. allen obviously needs to grow up and make the plays that are out there for him, but there is even less evidence that dabol knows what he is doing. i really want him to figure it out and balance the O, but i don't see how anyone can look at this offense and say he's put them in the best position to win.

there is room for flex due to the nfl being just so inconsistent on these things, but i get a sense that the general trend is towards harsher penalties for these kind of infractions. someone, and i think garrett, is gonna get a slap bigger than what those guys did after multiple infractions.

I do think the bills come out hard and fast and run the ball and get disciplined on D and dominate. of course, i know i'm setting myself up for disappointment, but i've been a pretty rabid bills fan for about 30 years, so im good at it!

my guess is he's out for the rest of the season, potentially more.

play FEARLESSLY. im not a fan of how nouns, verbs, and adverbs just all get the same morphology.

the more i read threads like this and the more i go back over the games, the more i am convinced our offensive skill level is pretty friggen low. also -- allen obv has huge short comings, i don't understand how the dumb OC doesn't work with that. he's trying to turn allen into a year 6 tom brady, square peg and round hole.

we also got our hands on our rotational RT, HUGE GET!

i hear that, but my working assumption is that florio is wrong or talking out of his butt. it's a pretty good model for that guy.

there is obviously some crusading going on in this thread, and allen clearly has some serious issues to work through, but our weapons are just not good. mackenzie, foster (who just gets no burn and can't adjust to a ball it seems), duke (who didn't make this sorry roster at the start of the season) and robers are just not NFL WRs of any merit. they don't get seperation, don't jump up for contested balls, and don't seem to have any fluid route running ability. our backs have shown not much in the pass game either. we just lack dynamic play making ability. for all his shortcomings, if allen was throwing to the same crew that mayfield was throwing too, i'm pretty sure we'd be putting up a few more points a game. i still can't figure out how this FO didn't attempt to trade for a WR.

i voted yes in the poll, but reading your posts makes me think you are right and this is just a dog and pony show. sports talk guy clay travis often posts a team will look at an athletes talent vs his baggage. if the value of the talent exceeds the cost of the baggage, there can be a deal to do, if not, no deal. kaep had a good run (ironically, given that roman was the architect for that, and made garbage pail tyrod look like a legit starter, and has jackson just tooling up the nfl right now, i think he's gonna be like kevin gilbride and win chips after we fired him, groan) but then fell apart. he hasn't looked good since, and got benched for frikken blain gabbert. kaep's baggage is huge. it costs viewers/ticket sales for a team employing him, and ill bet is a polarizing factor in the locker room or coaching staff. the simple math is he'd have to really strike a coaching staff as special to be worth the risk.

the only way we get to double digit wins and the playoffs is if the offense figures out how to be somewhere approaching consistent, which to me means running singletary and not asking our QB, line, and WRs to attempt to do something they just aren't good at. if we fail to make the playoffs, and even if we do but don't really get the offensive ship corrected, i'm 100% certain Daboll get's sent out the door.

looool. they put 8 in the box, we have to throw deep timing routes to beasley vs an over load blitz, IT'S WHAT ANALYTICS TELLS US TO DO! some of the ***** around these dorky takes are just insane.

he can throw a decent long ball, but he's getting these off because of the misdirection the O is forcing the d into. baltimore is dictating to the D what they are going to do. coward fatbol is just doing whatever the d forces him into.

im a big cover 1 fan. i think they get caught up in the x's and o's (well, that is their job) and give daboll to much love because he's creative in drawing up some plays that get people running around. the play design is just part of it, we need the OL to block well, the QB to read the play right and deliver the ball, and the WR to be precise and come down with it. based on the talent we have at these positions, we just aren't good, and clevland is good at stopping it. the constant pressure was just icing on the cake. a lot of qbs would have had the ball strip sacked w the free runners clevland was getting. not excusing allen, he still makes dumb moves but they are more about missing an open guy or throwing a bad ball rather than insane hero ball turnovers, so that's a plus! singletery should be attempting at least 15 if not 20 rushes vs a garbage run d like cleavland.

the points in here about dictating are on point. for some reason, allen has been hot garbage on big plays this season, but we have been able to run block pretty well. if it is possible, i'd have the bills O throw in wide open shotgun pass plays where allen has the green light to run wild like he did last year, rather than designed runs, and put the ball in the rbs hands much more. the tighter precision pass plays we run w our low talent smurfs out there just are not getting it done. what is super ironic is D's in the nfl tend to be built to stop the pass, so baltimore has a qb who is simply not a good passer, but they just throw over the top and run all over the place and it is producing hard.

honestly, i sometimes marvel at how cheeks are skill position talent is. our best play maker is a tie between brown and singletary (nod to brown, since we actually use him). brown was a cast off from baltimore, and clevland's 4th best skill position player (i'd say that's hunt) is better than anyone baltimore has. our pass d still did a very good job vs the browns, but they were able to run well and of course our O and special teams are horrid.

some zone runs, rpo's, or screens (not a run, but close enough) could have punished the browns for being so aggressive pre snap and made things easier for allen. daboll sucks, he's in love with his goofy play book so much that he runs plays that the team can't successfully execute. an OC that can't figure out a way to run the ball vs a bad run D is not a good one, especially when you have a line that can't block the pass rush and a raw qb on some shakey footing.

i read that post viewing your avi speaking in a voice that can only be described as a cross between mcD and popeye, and i chortled with satisfaction. the only hope i have for dbol is that mcd savagely bullies him into not being ######ed.

ok, so a couple points and a HAWT TAKE incoming. mcd is a bit like dickyJ, IN A GOOD WAY. jauron had a horrible horrible squad, and he had them competitive in games they had no business being in. gaily and mularky weren't better, marone had one decent year but was also kinda crap, and rex ryan got what, 8-8, so one game better with a much much better roster. mcd does coach conservative, and it is sad how we don't sneak in points at the end of the half or bring the hammer down on teams once we have a lead, but that's not just about the coach having determination and telling his players to win rather than tie. it comes down to what you practice and emphasize. you only have so much time during the week to prepare, so mcd emphasizes stopping big plays, taking away the pass without blitzing, and other various sundry that leads to a less than thrilling experience in some ways, but the result is his squad comes out fighting hard and keeping games close. this kinda dull approach has lead to us staying in games and winning games one could argue we shouldn't have won. all the early come backs, being really tight to NE, and such and such. i will say, he really seems like he has little to no clue on OCs tho. what bothers me the most is that since last year, we just can't run the freaking ball. last year our OL and backs were for shiz, this year we can do it, but just don't seem to call run plays. it's just disgusting.

The pass to brown I'm 3rd and 4 was supposed to be back shoulder, but brown read it wrong: he admitted as much in the post game presser. This is the second game the special teams cost us. House was trash. Our o is obviously garbage. Allen throws some bad balls, our wrs don't get much separation, and our online sucks. Tackles not blocking on half the pass plays, and just so many penalties. I'm counting Smith as ol here. Worst of all, our OC is trash. Just stinks. He didn't realize singletery was good until the Redskins game, and just could not figure out a way to get him some advantage touches today. He has got to go.

i don't think he's good, let alone excellent. our O is pretty friggen bad, except in the redzone. it was worse last year. he also had bad results for most of the teams he's worked for. he does some obvious and horrible things w play calling too. our QB is still raw, we don't have much for WR, our oline is like ok to decent, and our TEs are at best un proven, so i cut the guy some slack, but he hasn't shown he's good. him not featuring motor when motor is OBVIOUSLY our best weapon shows me he is too cute and doesn't just do what works enough.

assuming chargers are in london, colts go in west, texans and fins go in south, ravens go in east. that would be the most logical geographic breakdown. the afc north would all be reasonable drives from each other. i know it's new, but i could see insane rivalries brewing there.

dabol is kinda garbage. from the gadget plays that we all see coming that get blown up, to the idiotic gore into the pile failures, it was on full display on Sunday. singletary is our best player on O, and we all saw it week one, but dabol has been hiding him for gore because he's not a good OC. less hero ball by josh is a good thing, but zero wide open stuff is not. we do lack pass catchers on this team, but in going to the run this game (which overall i approve of) we decided to attempt one single pass to bease (a TD no less) and get away from him completely, and kept hitting the fail button on short yardage over and over again. he just has zero feel for the game and cannot call plays.

I'm not in that camp yet, but i've looked around the grounds, seen a couple of spots that seem pretty attractive. i will disagree with you on one thing, he's not shown ability to call a good game. he can call good drives and certainly has dialed up some solid plays, particularly in the redzone, but he seems to call the game like he's playing madden, just rando throwing plays around and if something sticks, keep going rando. except for goofy empty back field stuff and high risk low reward qb sweeps, he's got those hot keyed and mashes em quite often.