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Again, he's wrong in wanting this sub forum to go away or to be heavily moderated. That was the very first thing written in the post you're responding to. But there's a whole slew of bad actors that have shown up here since the lockdown hit that it would be far better to have take a hike. And totally understand where you're coming from; it's annoying to have people say they want to play in the sandbox but only if we make a lot of changes. But overall, it would be good to have more Doc Brown's or Kay Adams' here than less. Shoshin seems like he could be one of those. Just my 2 cents.

Shoshin is wrong when he calls for PPP to be scrapped, but at least when he's here he does try to have a legit discussion. Probably not the right thread for this comment, but if we drive away the handful of more liberal leaning posters like him that actually want to have a discussion, then we are left with an echo chamber for the most part with bad actors like Gary & Kemp throwing their bombs to disrupt that echo chamber. It would be far better to either have Gary and his ilk grow up or leave than to run off Shoshin. My 2 cents.

J8, Very good to have you back. Overall, what you write here seems a good take, but don't agree with the bolded. Expect that the majority of even the so called SJWs do want to get to that place but not all. When somebody says they want to kill all _____s (fill in whatever word is apropos for the particular discussion: whites, Jews, Armenians, Uyghurs, Tutsis, etc.) and they follow that up by taking to the streets violently, it seems to be best to take them at their word. We're getting to a point where we (in the general sense of the word) allow people to claim that words are actual violence (as opposed to what they actually should be - a way to express our ideas to allow others to understand us better & to understand others, or what they actually can be at their lowest - an uncalled for (not the exact right phrase there, but hopefully close enough) call for violence against innocents) and allow them to be taken seriously rather than telling them to actually think through what the consequences of that level of stupidity are. We're also getting to a point where many people (of all shades) actually espouse & seem to believe that if one is a member of a minority that they themself cannot be racist by definition regardless of how much unsubstantiated hate they have in their heart for someone else simply due to the color of that other person's skin tone. TL,DR: when somebody insists on telling you they're a bad person, believe them. (And, btw, there are many things that we as a society can do better for the less fortunate, but they start with improving education & also helping people understand that it really is on them to improve their own lot in life but that if they take some initiative that there are people that will help them towards that goal but nobody will hand them success. Sorry, getting preachy & don't have the time, energy, nor inclination to write the novella to explain my thoughts on this fully.)

At least it looks like someone pointed out what it looked like he was celebrating with his New York: Strong Loving United Tough message.

The porn industry will never survive. Wait ... what? Oh, you meant THOSE facials. Nevermind.

You think the Soviets EVER missed a Security Council vote after the Korean War began? Think the Iraqis or Taliban would like to have enjoyed a veto as well? Not saying the US should continue our lopsided funding of the UN nor that we shouldn't try to disband some of the really ridiculous subcouncils; but as long as the UN exists, our leaving the UN outright would be the stupidest thing we could ever do.

As long as the UN members can vote to go to war against a sovereign nation we need to stay in the UN and keep our Security Council veto.

Hopefully saner heads in NYC can prevail before DeBlasio is successful at Venezuelaizing that great city. It's doubtful, but hey miracles do happen every now & then.

That's not what they're saying. They are reporting the % positive as the percentage of people WITH an elevated temp that are then testing positive. They're reporting the percentage of a subset of the total group that is likely to have a greater positive percentage than the whole group's positive percentage as that of the whole group. If there are no asymptomatic people in the whole group, the entire group's positive rate would be 1.9%. Only if people without a fever are infected at the same rate as those with would the entire group's positive rate be 18%.

No. Pretty sure that the author is stating that the actual positive rate should be the 19 positive tests divided by the 956 total people screened at a cursory level. Which, while the 1st # grossly inflated positive test rates the latter ignores asymptomatic people that are actually carrying the virus. The real number is likely close to the 1.9% but higher than that.

O Kay.

Wasn't sure before, but now it is obvious you're trolling. That's not a person that was spray painted bronze before being lynched, it is a friggin' statue.

Personally, as am not in a high risk group, would not be one of the 1st to take the vaccine. But, if it proves effective & side effects prove to be minimal, would most likely eventually get it. But that has little to do with Bill Gates and more to do with undersanding that there's no way the vaccine will undergo the normal vetting protocols & the alpha test is rarely as good as the beta version & they could likely still plan improvements beyond that improving the efficacy & decreasing the side effects. Were my status be more high risk, would be willing to be way closer to the front of the line.

Wonder how much that would screw their electric grid? Can't even imagine how much devastation could be caused to 400 MILLION people living downstream. Agree, hope it doesn't fail.

Really can't see a single person here not hoping they come up with an effective vaccine. But several do take exception to the sentiment (which isn't yours) that nothing should fully reopen until a vaccine is available. There's predictions one could be ready by October, but they really don't know whether that prediction will bear out. We can't stay closed until there's a vaccine.

How is not calling police protecting people of color by not reporting instances of property damage unless they assume all instances of property damage are caused by people of color? Which is a rather racist sentiment for them to have.

You must have edited it after I'd already started to quote it. (Got delayed in finishing the response so it's very likely you edited it after the response was started.) So, drag on further it does? Bummer.

Definitely not an expert, but that seems to be the consensus opinion that Judge Sullivan wouldn't get enough judges interested in taking his side in an en banc hearing, so he's cutting his losses and leaving with a shred of his dignity left. Hoping that's the case. And it would make sense that General Flynn expects that as well as he hit the talk show circuit last and that would seem to be a foolish thing to do if this could still drag out further.

3,281 deaths & 2,249 deaths respectively. Which stinks; that's about 5,500 more deaths than anyone would like to see. Would sure hate to see how badly a state with 24,782 deaths must be run.

We'd be worried about you if you did get it. But, it was nearly genius.

Purely guessing that it would be Crenshaw or Haley, but preference would be Grenell.

No, it's ####ing pathetic. These ####### are so entrenched into their bunkers that they LITERALLY make 2nd graders back & forth jibes of "nunhtna," "uh-huh," "nuhntna," "uh-huh," ad infinitum seem downright well reasoned & adult. And FAR more productive.

Absolutely. And IIRC, as comparision NYC was topping out at ~900 deaths / day and ~24,000 positive tests. Going off memory there as NYS though it still shows totals on its Covid webpage now only shows data from the past week on its trendline. (Nice job, Andy. Certainly people will forget how bad things were in state now that they can't easily see the true daily peaks anymore. )

Doubt he'd shut the state down at this point, but a strong case could be made for increasing "social distancing" measures if the hospitalization rate (or worse, the death rate) goes up much more.

AND the slam poetry unit!?!?!?! Bringing out the full force of the man?!?!? That seems disproportionate. They only killed ONE person; the interpretive dance team should be able to get this done with some help from the social workers.