DrDawkinstein

I get what you're saying from a pure business perspective, but I think one thing was made clear last year: the energy of the large crowds of rabid fans greatly improves the quality of the product for the tv audience. That goes for all sports. And for a region like WNY that doesnt have a lot of other entertainment options, it should be something the entire community can attend and come together as one big group. IMO, at least.

For what it's worth, 60,000 doesnt seem that too far off the mark when you look at the actual numbers. If you add in the suites, we're pretty much right on average. Now, the obvious counterpoint being that most of these numbers come from the Drought Years when we would be eliminated by November and attendance would drop off. I personally think 65,000 plus suites is the sweet spot. Would be interested in seeing the attendance numbers at the end of this year. I bet it will be closer to 70,000 average.

We call that "flying under the radar"

Can he play ST Gunner?!?

The biggest safety concern with the upper deck is knuckleheads falling over the railings onto people below.

They really got one over on us, stealing away our top CB. Dang. Tragic.

I would also recommend the TBD tailgate. Although I'm not sure I'd bring my 20-something daughters around most of this board.

I'm just thrilled to have the Bills finally in a place where we are arguing whether to keep a ST Gunner vs 5th RB vs 7th WR, instead of trying to figure out a solution at QB, LT, DE, or any other starting position. Work your magic, Beane. GO BILLS!

No need to. Train in suburbs, play downtown. Most teams do that.

It's a very disappointing, short-sighted, small town, bush league plan. Agreed. As the only team that actually plays in NYS, and the fact that there is no way the politicians will let the Bills leave, the Pegulas should press the state much harder to pony up what is needed to get an awesome new stadium downtown, a bunch of new surrounding bars/restaurants/commercial space, and the added infrastructure to support it (expand 190, add ramps, add rail from airport to downtown). I dont care if they say it will cost $3B. NYC is good for it. Make it happen.

Then I'd recommend something downtown so they can see the city and some nightlife too. And get some great wings at Gabe's Gate. You have the Hampton Inn, and Embassy Suites on Delaware. Or the Best Western-On the Avenue as a more cost effective spot, and that is right in the heart of Allentown, a two block walk to Gabe's Gate, Allentown Burger Venture, etc. JMO

How old are your daughters?

Not in any of the roach motels near the stadium (and Im not even sure roaches will live there anymore).

Y'all love your conspiracy theories, thats for sure 🤣🤣

For all of us out-of-towners... What do we care how much it costs?

Agreed in general, but no way do we ever get a SB with an open-air stadium. Never gonna happen.

Doubtful. The seats they had in the clubs broke down pretty quick and they went to overhead warmers. Would be a huge hassle and cost to maintain. But maybe that is where the $1.4B for an open air stadium comes from.

Tore them up and... still lost 31-21? Teams will put up yards on us. The key though is how many points they actually end up with. Good luck keeping up with the Bills Offense.

@teef's teef

I want need one before my dad passes. Hopefully we still have some years ahead of us, but the sooner the better when it comes to the Bills.

That's a bummer. He was a HUGE step up from Rodak, and actually provided insight and information.

Kumerow is talked about a lot due to the Aaron Rodgers story from last year. That is far more the reason he is in the media than some conspiracy to set up a trade later on. As far as D Johnson is concerned... this is just typical Beane MO. It's what he has done every year prior, except last year in the odd year, and usually it has been with OLinemen. He overstocks the trenches, and then trades away the guys who would be otherwise cut because there are usually teams looking for help along the lines at the end of camp.

I know it's just preseason but 2 stops on 4th and goal/short is pretty impressive.

A DOME IS A SHAPE!

Well that clears it up!