DrDawkinstein

I'm sure this was posted elsewhere as well, but... 🤤

Just like the crap about us in on Von Miller before he chose LA. Or the crap about us in on Diggs a year before we finally landed him. Or the crap about us pursuing Sanders before he picked the Saints. Or the crap about us being in on Watt before he held up a Carindals cap and a Bills cap and chose Phoenix. Can you point to any big internet rumors that were actually false? Because so far, they all ended up true. And most ended up happening.

True, good point, but we're talking an "aging" RB here. This line of discussion piqued my interest... Leonard Fournette, after helping carry TB to a SB, got 3/$21M. Melvin Gordon got 1/$2.5 Most big RB contracts are the deals immediately following their rookie deal, and then fall off a cliff for their 3rd contract. With no guaranteed money remaining, Beane could bring him in this year for $600k, then say "How about 2/$15M with $10M guaranteed?" If he doesnt take it, cut him and let him try the market next year. But he might sign it to get that guaranteed money as an aging RB who has been dinged up. The contract is meaningless at this point.

Sure, we could throw out mid-round pick combos all day, and I'm sure some or most of them are being offered and discussed between the teams in question. I'd guess a 3rd and 6th adds up close to a 4th on the point chart. Same thing. I dont think either of us thinks it will be a 1st, or 2 2nds. So we both agree it will be in those mid-round picks.

That exact play is the reason they changed the rules THAT WEEK and arent allowed to do that anymore. But great call digging this up.

And CMC is a guy with a big contract who has been injured lately. The Panthers will want to get out of that contract, but the only way right now is to cut him and let him walk for nothing, or trade him and get SOMETHING in return. A 4th sounds about right.

Ref is a tool. The fact another ref had to "hold him back" from going after Epenesa tells me everything I need to know about this power-tripping little weasel. AJ never touched him. Ref got his feelings hurt by whatever AJ said to him, and tossed him. Pathetic.

We moved Dareus and Watkins both for 6th round picks. Teams that are in rebuild mode will take anything they can get. I dont think a 6th gets this done, but a 4th isnt unreasonable. I wish I had the audio of Romo going on about the bold moves Beane made to clean house and rebuild the team, and that is what teams need to do if they are serious about rebuilding. I hope Carolina was watching the broadcast.

If they are fine paying out the rest of that contract, sure, they probably will. But if everyone is seeing him as a possible 1 year rental who would have to sign a new deal, then we're probably all in the same ballpark. Teams that are tanking and looking to completely rebuild would be happy to eat the entire contract now and get it off the books for the next regime. Beane did it with a couple of our super star players I believe.

Meaning he probably wont see another ridiculous contract like the Panthers offered him even in Free Agency.

Sure. But that also plays into what we offer in negotiations. Obviously if we trade a 1st then we are over a barrel with having to re-sign him (a la Texans/Tunsil), but I doubt Beane does that. If it is a 4th rounder... I can eat that for a one year rental who helps get us a SB.

Folks, read the thread. The money "issue" has been addressed.

Yes and no. We'd only owe him that if we kept him. None of that $11-12M is guaranteed. So the first approach is as a 1 year rental for $600k. If we wanted to keep him beyond that, we could make an offer at a restructure to give him some guaranteed money, but much less than $12M/yr. Point being, Beane has room to work his magic. And no one does it better.

Addressed upthread. $600k this year.

Lots of both. And there isnt a guy who plays RB and OL, so we'll go with what we can get. The OL could be improved, sure. But Moss has 40 yards of open green in front of him at one point yesterday, he took forever to get his feet moving (almost like a cartoon where they are running in place trying to get going), and then when he finally did start running he tripped over his own feet for a gain of 6 instead of 60. We could improve at RB and see an improvement in our run game.

Yeah, the Barkley idea ended once Daboll started winning instead of straight tanking.

I would absolutely take Saquon over CMC. But Saquon isnt available and I believe his contract is more prohibitive.

Saban wasnt around long enough to be considered a failure, imo. He just got a better offer and knew College was a better place to be. I get that as a Dolphins fan, you may feel differently

We're spoiled 🤣 I get what you're saying, but really, anyone associated with the current Bills is a big name nowadays.

My money is on Leslie Frazier. Not a current HC, but was one.

Dang, fired their DC today too. The OC is the only one left in the building, holding the bag 🤣

Then put in THEIR backups! (which we did)

Good point, but I'm not sure they are still so patient. Especially when their Golden Boy is getting crushed like that.

Looking at Kenny Pickett's stat line, 327 yards, ok kid!... ...3 points, hmm maybe not.