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oh man - I caught Skynyrd at the synovium. They tore it up No, no Giuseppe! Not Hippa - Kneea!

No, but I've seen the image. It's a boy.

He’s all but used

So Tua is the Phil Niekro of QBs?

I doubt he’s a wuss. theres just nothing that wows me seeing him play.

Agree i just don’t see the tools. A low ceiling as my untrained eyes see it.

Re: Indy I said same to my brother last night. Colts seem to be the team that isn't getting any, or much, attention. They are complete - and dangerous. I think they beat Pittsburgh today.

Xmas miracle indeed Are you in the wrong thread?

I respectfully disagree. I do think the Steelers lose out (Colts, Browns). And the Ravens shall destroy the Gints. I hear you. Just don't expect the same performance.

Turn the page. Progress by Josh Allen

Good morning!

If the opposition doesn't get good QB play they won't beat us. They have Tua.

Yep ‘94 i was there for that Monday Nighter. It poured rain a good chunk of it too. Last play, Elway sailed one high through the end zone in a one score game.

Quite simply - I prefer the White

FWIW - I never need to see the Bills play another game with the red helmet.

You and me both, brother.

Getting the right coach and QB. So hard to do, simultaneously no less.

Some ideas sound sooo good.... ....until valid points like this come in and wreck it!!

They have PLENTY of #2 on their roster I might disagree with all 5 that's just me, though

True As we both know, the premium placed on OL, even less than blue chip types get their payday. Usually from the next suitor. That's why I don't think his future is in NE.

It would take a trade, right? Would they be willing to spend the money and resources it would take to acquire a 35 year old QB with so many other issues to tend too? Ryan should not strike fear in a Bill's fan mind. The Pats are on the dreaded carousel until proven otherwise, imo. Honestly, I wonder what franchise makes a play - a serious commitment - to Jimmy G. This will be interesting to see play out. He'll get a gig, I just wonder about the commitment.

I actually think he's a stubborn, old mule. I think he may endure a few less than mediocre seasons to try to prove he can do it w/o TB. It's been so long since he's been confronted with the direction and success of his team that it will get the best of him. He will try the Kraft's patience. He will not leave the organization in a favorable manner. I think the Kraft's may very well intervene before they become seriously relevant again.

Another good point. Nepotism wins the day in Foxboro. I'd really like to know how long Kraft will support this. This - and his heart wasn't in it. He had one foot out the door before the season ended.

This is fair. Jimmy was surrounded by top end talent in SF and a terrific system. Granted, he went a SB and lost to the mighty Chiefs, but he was the weak link on a loaded roster. It never felt like he had command.

Good points. The offense is a complete disaster. Those 2 OL you mention are gonna get paid - and I'm not sure the Pats have an appetite to match. They are depleted across the board offensively. This is gonna take some doing to correct. And as always, finding the QB will prove to be a challenge. They can have allllll the 6-9 win teams they want. Purgatory is a B word as we all know. They're gonna muddle in the middle for a bit, I suspect. I'm confidant going with - "if even"