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If he's going top five, I hope we're trading up.

UGA has so many good rbs, they played a rotation where Chubb and Michel both got a lot of snaps. Swift got the third most, but quite a lot of playing time. Michel is the more explosive runner and a better receiver than Chubb.

Doesn't your analogy depend on Cousins being the equivalent of Brees? I don't think he's all that.

I loathe both of them. For personal reasons, I also hate Philly. Vikings were the only team I liked, so naturally they got slaughtered. Only good thing about Pats* winning yesterday was Marrone losing. Schadenfreude is an ugly emotion, but that fella deserves it.

The number is whatever is necessary to make Mr. Kraft happy.

I've missed plenty of super bowls in the past. If I don't like the teams, I don't watch. Last year, I made an exception of not watching Pats/refs vs. NFC team because I live in Atlanta. I learned my lesson. No interest in sitting through endless commercials (though often better than the game) and some pop-star strutting for forty-five minutes in order to watch two teams I dislike. Too bad they can't both lose.

I would literally boycott the season. Life is too short to willingly torture yourself.

Starting Peterman and post-season talk from Beane indicates to me a qb change will be a priority. I'll be surprised if Taylor isn't cut or traded.

If you have a very good defense or a defense on a hot streak with lots of opportune turnovers, you can win games with a mediocre qb who avoids turnovers. I think most will grant that TT can win those kind of games. His limitations are obvious to anyone not blinded by irrational bias (and/or a member of the national media.) We'll be getting a new qb in 2018 and thankfully this prolonged, pointless discussion will go the way of EJ and Orton and a dozen other failed qbs.

I would rather spend FA money bolstering OL and DL and try and get a young, cost controlled qb with franchise qb potential who can play for fifteen years. But see, I like Mayfield and I think you can get him without sacrificing all your draft capital to move up and get him; but you will have to move up, imo.

I'm sure there are folks who go by quantifiable metrics. That can be helpful; I'm not dismissing analytics. But I don't spend time on that, so I can't offer that kind of criteria. Nor am I an expert, just a fan on a message board. I'll leave off fellas like Brady, Brees, Rodgers who are elite and future HOF guys. To me, a guy like Romo was borderline top ten. He was top ten if you discount playoff failures. Current crop, I think a guy like Carr is top ten, though this year he was not. I don't know if that was injury or not. Cousins has decent numbers. He might fall in top ten by criteria that just looks at completion percentage and yardage. OTOH, he doesn't seem clutch. I don't think he elevates the play of those around him. I think he's a pretty good qb, but not worth the price tag he will likely garner. Seems to me I recollect his coach making rather snide comments about him recently. I don't think Gruden would have done that if Washington planned on trying to keep him. And I guess that this implies Cousins probably is not keen to stay there either.

He's not top ten, imo, Shaw. He's definitely not a 30 million dollar a year qb, which is what he might end up getting. Seems to me that would completely subvert the attempt to get the cap to a nice, friendly place for us. Don't know much about the oline draft, but guys on offense this team could use: Baker Mayfield, Sony Michel, Christian Kirk.

Peterman's first game historically bad. Zay's first season, historically bad. Better hope the braintrust figures out offense.

Picking Rudolph over Mayfield would indeed anger me. He's not nearly as good.

You're right. I googled franchise qb tree and there's no such thing.

I concur with the chorus here. I have a feeling you'd have trade up in the second to get him, though. Hopefully we have some draft capital left after securing a franchise qb (probably Mayfield based on availability).

Cousins will command more than his worth; could get close to 30 million per year, which would lose all the cap management effort OBD has done. We should trade up for Rosen, Darnold, or Mayfield.

I highly doubt Mayfield makes it to #21. Rudolph is a third round prospect, imo, but he will be overdrafted because of the position.

Yeah, I would think that would get you Mayfield. I also like Darnold, but you will have to sell a really large farm as you surmise.

I would sell a pretty good sized farm for Mayfield.

As an UGA fan, I like the enthusiasm, but a trade up for this team should only be for qb. (And it's Roquan, btw.) I don't like Mason Rudolph, but I suppose I'd be okay with taking him in the second. Mocks before FA are really too early, because you don't know what areas may have been shored up.

I am surprised to hear such enthusiasm from you. You are generally in the very skeptical, more critical than not camp when it comes to evaluating qb. And to be fair, most qbs don't work out. I don't claim to have superior scouting skills or anything, but I am also high on Mayfield so I hope he is a target for us. Just out of curiosity: you seem to be placing a lot of value on Mayfield's college production. How do you distinguish between valuing college production in this case and perhaps dismissing it with air raid qbs like Mahomes?

Well, from your posting history, its sometimes hard to tell when you are serious and when you are joking. I have nothing against the fella who I wouldn't know from Adam. If he turns into a gem, you'll certainly have bragging rights.

Isn't OP the fella who asked if Kyle Orton deserved a place on the wall of fame? This has got to be another joke that folks are taking seriously. Why OP thinks its amusing to start this kind of thread I can't account for.

It's always the year after the current draft.