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It's really a depressing scenario. Start of the season when they were hot, I was hopeful they had turned the corner. They are playing so poorly now. The bottom has fallen out and I don't see seasoning of young players sufficient answer to how miserable they look. At this point, I really hope Terry throws a boatload of money at Joel Quenneville, though I'm not sure even that would be enough to convince him to coach this team.

I already said this earlier. I think they would like to go DT, TE. Ed Oliver at #9, then trade back into the first to get Hockenson or Fant if T.J. is gone. I don't think they're going to just wait and see who is there at #40.

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If it's just coachspeak, it's not determinative. I don't suppose he's going to give away our draft strategy, but to me it seems plausible. Those two positions seem like places you would invest draft capital given where our personnel needs are.

DT and TE jump out from those quotes as primary interests. I'd like to see Oliver at #9. Still think TE will fall towards mid-twenties. Trade back up for Hockenson or Fant if TJ is gone.

Bosa and Allen are mentioned as the top two EDGE choices. Some like Sweat a lot, but right now, he relies on speed and has one move. Burns already has creativity and multiple ways of attacking o-linemen. Not sure if one is allowed to post links, so I won't, but there's a good analysis, imo, over at The Draft Network on Burns. Those who compare him to Maybin are mistaken. Burns can carry more weight and maintain athleticism. He isn't the beneficiary of clean-up sacks. It honestly wouldn't shock me if he ends up being picked ahead of Allen.

I agree with this. I like Oliver. If they go edge, I think Brian Burns may be near the top of their list, though either may go before nine.

Why is that exactly?

Next time I see him, I'll let him know.

I think they stick at 9, but I wouldn't rule out a trade up from 40.

He's definitely better than those who think he's a questionable starter.

No, it's just you.

Still think they need at least a developmental OT and a RB under 30 as well.

I think they bumbled Josh Allen's rollout. I don't think they imagined he would start that early. A vet like Anderson (McCarron isn't that) should have been there from the get go. In the end, however, Allen may be better for having faced that adversity. It might seem almost unreal to have a credible line in front of him and wrs who are NFL caliber and capable of making plays for their qb. I am certainly encouraged by where the team is now, so I don't agree with the view that Beane is incompetent.

Sometimes I can't help myself, but I agree, one shouldn't.

I think Waddle is good depth. I doubt you want him starting. If Dawkins gets moved to guard, they still need a solid OT. The fact that they are courting Spain makes me think they are keeping Dawkins at tackle, though I do think he has potential to be dominant at LG.

LT and LG are both projections. I think there is a somewhat small chance Dawkins could develop into a better LT than you imagine. I think the chances are pretty good he could be a very good LG, though one is still speculating there. I'd like to move him, but right now there isn't a LT to replace him on the roster and I don't see one I would take at nine. I would trade back into the latter part of the first if Dillard is still there, though even then, would you start a rookie at LT? I kinda doubt it.

Well, you repeatedly come on here and badmouth Allen as a qb. You want him to keep running because you think he's inaccurate and not much of a passer. I don't think you're going to see Allen stop running. Having time to see the field and throw, having wrs who can reliably catch the ball and with speed to stretch the field may benefit both passing and running. They're not mutually exclusive options.

Ah, my reading comprehension not so great Sunday morning/early afternoon. I do like the idea of how much flexibility McDermott's D gains with three very athletic lbs. I can see Edmunds racking up sacks as an occasional edge rusher, too.

Keuchley is the floor for White? Okay, if true and if he's there, you gotta take him.

I doubt he falls to nine. My question is about lb. Don't we normally have two lbs on the field? If you draft White, are you thinking of playing Edmunds at DE as an edge rusher? You're not getting value if Milano, Edmunds and White aren't on the field for most snaps. Outside of that context, White would be a steal if available. I've just concentrated elsewhere for aforementioned reasons.

C'mon. I don't think a single person defends the quality of personnel that was on the team last year, especially on offense. It was a tear down, necessary or not. Nearly every complaint you just lodged above has been echoed by many. I have made the same charges, so stop with the vehemence as if claiming Beane and McDermott have a plan is equivalent to justifying all their past actions. One can disagree with much and still recognize that a decision to radically alter cap management and infuse talent this year does not amount to throwing excrement against the wall and haphazardly hoping for the best.

Allen had one of the worst o-lines in the league, bottom five wr corps, and generally ineffective running game. He didn't have the luxury of a redshirt year or a coaching staff with proven offensive success like Mahomes. We'll see how he does going into camp with all the first-team reps, a year of experience, improved line, players, etc. Couldn't care less about numbers. Allen emerged as a player after the injury, imo. He was carrying that team. He's already a leader. We'll find out if truth or a mirage soon enough.

This is more or less the "they have no plan and are panicking" narrative. I think the team has somewhat more talent than you credit. I also think that while one can certainly disagree with individual decisions or even the basic strategy, it's disingenuous to claim Beane and McDermott are not proceeding along what they perceive as a rational plan.

Merge with CJ Anderson thread and consign to oblivion.