Bill from NYC

Well you see omf, I was one to complain for many, many years. For example, when Whaley gave away the store for Watkins, I blasted the move from day 1 (and still do). People said I was wrong because he was "good." Tell me. what "good" was he for the Bills, a team with huge QB problems? Now, we went after a big strong QB who might also be good. I would much rather miss with a qb than waste another prime pick on a db or rb.

I have been on this wonderful board for many, many years. Now, I am reading these posts that are absolutely hating the Allen pick and it is hard to understand why. Almost every season, I was on this board blasting yet another idiotic first round pick by the Bills. For instance: A #8 (in a stacked draft) on an undersized Donte Whitner? How about a 1st on a half dead Willis McGahee? In 2008 we had a very poor OL. It was awful. We drafted Leotis McKelvin, passing up both Ryan Clady and Branden Albert. I could go on and on but my point is that fans were generally supportive of these clearly stupid picks. Now, we finally use resources on a big, strong quarterback and most people seem to hate the kid. Why? Because he said stupid things when he was a toddler? Because he went to a small school? After what seemed like forever, we took a chance on solidifying the most important position on the field. We moved up to make sure we landed a qb with a cannon arm. What is SO freaking bad? I for one am glad that we did something smart (for a change) in round 1, and welcome this young man to Buffalo. GO BILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, there have been plenty of episodes but as I said, I have calmed down. But Tom, a DB in this draft will likely elicit a temper tantrum, and why not? We need a quarterback and if we are dumb enough to pass on one, how about a freaking blocker or 2? The lack of quarterbacks and blockers have destroyed the Bills for 20 or so years. Wasting 1st round picks on defensive backs and running backs is what caused our team to be a dismal failure; in other words, suck. What always stuns me is how any sane Bills Fan can dispute this.

Yeah well Pat Kirwin, in his final mock draft, predicted that the Bills would draft a safety at #12 and it wasn't even Minkah Fitzpatrick. I get about 10-25% as upset as I used to; but, if the Bills draft a defensive back or a running back at #12 my head will likely explode.

I wasn't going to go there but it appears that tenses in general are a huge issue. Is that you Coach Saban?

Being a Bills Fan is a good reason to scorn the draft. Year after year we turn our backs on qbs and blockers in order to draft running backs and defensive backs. I mean who needs Deshaun Watson when there are corners out there? Maybe this will be the season where the stupidity ends. We can only hope.

John is a great guy and I think he was going to kick "Combo's" ass. I actually went with him to other pages to see his work. He used to torture vegetarians. He's a superstar!

Nothing ever posted in 2 decades of TDB was as funny as the work of Hogboy. All of his threads were absolutely hysterical. The man, in a moments notice, could adopt dozens of different personalities. Remember him as "Miami Don Johnson?" He would claim to be sipping a pina colada on the beach while Bills Fans are shoveling 2 feet of snow. He once brought in his son for help on a thread. He would purposely misspell words to anger others and get them to call him stupid, etc. He used to go on law enforcement sites and call correction officers "jail guards" (he was once a corrections officer) and referred to volunteer firemen as arsonists who derived sexual pleasure from starting fires (quoting nutty, made up stats). Now he is on Facebook and he tortures both Trump and Hillary supporters. He has better trolling luck with the Trump people, whereas most Hillary supporters will just claim that she is not relevant and dismiss her corruption. Hogboy is the Babe Ruth of trolls!!!

Guard? The last first round Guard we drafted was in 1995. The Bills draft 1st round defensive backs and running backs, not guards. Tua looks as if he will be not good but great. Still, waiting for him is not the answer. Even if he turns out to be all world there is no guarantee that they will be in a position to draft him. It would be a dream come true for me but the odds of Tua in Buffalo are slim at best and we MUST go and get a qb in this draft. When I read this I wondered, "why such a nasty remark from such a good poster?" Then I read your location. It's all cool.

I think that Gettleman meant was that it takes 5 years to recover from NOT drafting a very good quarterback when you have the opportunity to select one. For instance, the Bills passed on Mahomes last season and chose to draft a corner. I am not claiming to know if Mahomes is any good but if he is, the Bills will be set back no matter how good the corner turns out to be. I am not a Giant Fan. Never was; but, I think that Gettleman is going to be a fine GM. And I don't think he will pass on drafting a qb.

That is a nice mock. I heard someone on Sirius predict that we would trade down to 9 with the 49ers. I do however think that the Giants will draft a qb. Gettlleman is a very interesting guy and is on Sirius quite often. He says that missing on a qb is a "5 year mistake." It made me think how a vast majority of our Bills 1st round picks were 5 year mistakes lol. Donte Whitner anyone? I really do not think that our current leadership is this stupid; good news indeed!

No prob., let him rest.

Mine would resemble yours except that I would place CB at #7 just above MLB.

Yeah, I am pretty surprised to not see more love for LTs. Not only do they prolong the health and career of your most important player, they also improve your running game and dominate the clock when needed. The Bills have fielded left tackles (Greg Jerman, Demetrus Bell, etc.) who placed the QB's lives in jeopardy in the literal sense. They always placed more value in defensive backs. How well did that work out?

Offensive Left Tackle. You are talking about someone better than Orlando Pace.

I have the same one in crimson!

I haven't had much time this year to really scout the draft. That said, I was watching the NFL Channel today and saw Connor Williams in drills. He looks like a huge, mean blocker. This is something that the Bills desperately need, and have needed for some time. Tyrod is no longer here to run away from trouble. The left side is gone and we already sucked at RT. I want this kid on the Buffalo Bills. What do you all think?

A lot of winners up there!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't need to be instructed by You as to where to post on this board but thanks for the effort.

Fair enough; sorry about that.

Really? Have you counted your own posts in this thread ODB? The despair, hatred and jealousy are oozing out of dozens of posts, no? Yeah, I would say there is some interest in greatness. And your point is? Are people who disagree with you automatically wrong? He was also sprawled out on the floor trying to cry after a loss. Oh wait.....that was a different coach!

Don't worry, in a decade or so your inferior team just might come within 30 points of the National Champion University of Alabama Crimson Tide. Try not to let the jealousy and hate build until then; it's like poison, ya know? Saban is and it isn't close.

https://247sports.com/college/alabama/Bolt/Alabama-Crimson-Tide-Football-Recruiting-Alabama-Nick-Saban-lands-4-star-DT-Rashad-Cheney--117039881 Apparently he was committed to Georgia.

http://www.drafthistory.com/index.php/colleges/n

Thanks, my mistake.