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I just saw that yesterday and have to say how frigging pathetic it is that a man who can’t remember where or how his son died is treated like this. Biden has his issues, and they are well documented here, but trotting this guy out and pretending he’s fine is sad.

Once the game is decided, you play by the rules as established. Take the forgiveness and move on.

There are no new ideas in the world of American politics, just recycled narratives that resonate at certain points in time. The Dems complained about Russians hiding in the shadows changing the outcome of the election, Trump’s incompetence, Trump’s lies, and expressed grave concerns about the security of our elections in order to start phase 2 in the event Trump prevailed in 2020…and nominated a career numbskull with decades of incompetence and a pattern of lying and feigned outrage over allegations of stolen elections when directed at them. In the meantime, we find the FBI, with a history of less-than-ethical behavior during often tumultuous times in our nation’s history, chose to exert influence to snuff a conversation about the behavior of the apparently favored candidate’s son, his business deals and influence peddling.

Especially when it doesn’t work.

Thanks for the reply, it gave me the opportunity to reconsider my phrasing. I have no idea what your frame of reference on the issue of impeachment and demonizing the opponent is, but I know mine. There was a time I would have thought McCarthyism was a distant relic of our ugly past, that a political party would not launch multiple impeachment probes for political theater, that a DOJ would not raid the home of the opposition party, that a Supreme Court nominee with an impeccable record of service would not be held out to be a serial sexual predator by a politician soon to be nominated to VP, and that common sense would suggest there is little difference politically speaking between "Trump is an Illegitimate President!" and "Biden's people stole the election!". There was also a time I would have assumed that during a global pandemic, the democrats would not have encouraged mass gatherings that clearly hastened the spread of a virus--and the suffering and death that followed-- and then spoke against trusting a vaccine developed under the oppositions admin, all for political benefit. I was wrong. I don't advocate that the R follow or supersize the dem strategy of the past few election cycles moving forward, and I would be happy to stand next to you in the voting line if we can return to some semblance of normalcy in the future. I've viewed every American president during my lifetime as my President, rode with the ebbs and flows of the system as some benefited me, and some hurt me. I don't think Trump was an illegitimate President guilty of treason, I don't think the election was stolen, and I have zero love for the mutts who were guilty of crimes on 1/6, though I do have issues with the fairness/equity/due process of that particular event. However, I was referring to impeachment as 'scorched earth'. That was my standard. Impeachment as a political tool is already here. It's already a mainstream concept, RedDog, and it's widely accepted as normal. It's not a matter of being 'gross', or cheering for people who stab each other in the back on a daily basis to be "better", though better would surely be better. To answer your question directly, it's not a matter of 'getting rid' of anyone. Biden will serve out his term any way you slice it unless his cognitive decline forces him out, or nature catches up with him. Trump served his four year term, but the net political effect of the constant drag on his admin from the impeachment proceedings cannot be understated. That's just politics.

It’s all about the subpoena and bluster about how he must answer. I watched the news tonight, heard the usual connect the dots approach to somehow try and pull Trump in to some imagined conspiracy, and including Schumer and Pelosi looking like a couple great grandparents talking into a cell phone about Trump. They appeared old, weak and scared. What NBC didn’t report was anything that the 1/6 committee actually proved anything, or in fact, had evidence of anything tying Trump to the rioters.

I love the commitment to ‘the right way’ that you and @sherpa have talked about. It would be good if we can get back to that as a nation. On the other hand, when the political system includes normalized allegations of misconduct, illegitimacy and treason—-and it’s accepted by the American people as business as usual—that becomes the new system. Those not playing in the new system run the risk of becoming irrelevant and there is simply too much at stake. What we know now is that the Russia investigation was a farce, that leaders in the D party knew very early on what the Clinton/DNC was planning, that the DOJ screwed around with FISA applications and was willing to enrich a foreign national to the tune of a million taxpayer bucks, and as the country moved toward ripping itself apart, they let it happen. Worse yet, in spite of Mueller’s conclusions, tens of millions of Americans voted for more of the same. Assuming power shifts again—and I don’t assume anything given the cover the media gives Biden Inc—I cannot see a choice other than to impeach and go scorched earth. It’s just the way it is.

If you can get a receiver of his talent, on a deal structured by GM like Brandon Beane, on a team with the offensive talent of the Buffalo Bills, you take him. You take him every time.

Oh yeah, I know. That's my game.

Correct. You surely knew you would be called on it, and now it has happened. Poor form.

I feel like you're trying to one up Wack on his joke. That's in poor form.

Suddenly, it’s like hypocrisy in politics isn’t fashionable.

This is interesting. https://nypost.com/2022/10/10/california-makes-it-illegal-for-doctors-to-disagree-with-politicians/ Seems in Cali, the powers that be may want to tamp down conversations beyond “shut up, get vaxxed, everyone should comply” in your local physicians office. I have not been in the @Big Blitz camp here, I was vaxxed and boosted. I’ve gotten flu shots for years after a nasty bout with something flu-like maybe a decade or so ago laid me up for 10 days. I’m not in any risk category that I can think of—I’m thing, get a reasonable amount of excessive, take no medication and my wife says I’m a 10 out of 10, or surely would if I didn’t insist I not be objectified. Anyway, I look at the government response to the virus, and see a whole lot of “Do as I say, not as I do.”. From private gatherings that violated protocol, conflicting information, support of major protests that surely spread the virus, a sliding scale of who/what should be required to close, the targeting of people of faith, and the reality that people not at risk were clobbered over the head with “trust our science”…I want my doctor to provide a clear and concise explanation of risk v reward.

I wasn’t thinking about AR specifically, but I suppose for those that think he’s a dbag, yeah, it would work.

I generally stay out of the draft debate, but this guy had trouble written all over him. As bad as the "nine mistakes" comment was in retrospect, I can almost admire the guy for his belief in himself. The part about thinking about pretending to be happy though, that's it. That's the part of his personality that made me believe he was going to trouble in a locker room. It went hand in hand with his pre-draft political comments and how he would debate anyone who disagreed with him. To be that much of a d bag and thrive as a Qb on a pro team, you gave to be really, really, really good.

I know, and I went along with him down the rabbit hole. I generally think if you can find some common ground, we can have dialogue like a couple adults and dealing with both issues. I had no idea what he was talking about initially when he brought up something about republicans wanting to make something about Saudi Arabia illegal. Next thing I knew, Tibsy was on to pardons and the wondrous evolution of Biden from oppressor to savior, the victimization of pot smokers and the societal value of opium dens. At one point I think I was staring at a tree outside my window thinking "Wow man, trees are like broccoli for giants, man.".

Biden's pardon didn't solve the issues you've just outlined on the federal level, Tibs. In that regard, he didn't evolve at all, and recognized folks like you wouldn't know the difference. It's a trend with you. As for the obvious political ploy here, you asked a question and I answered it. You are so worried about all this but sit around with your thumb up your keister until Biden tells you it;s time to rejoice. This is the opposite of evolving, Tibs. This is like watching Biden just wander about the stage, not even sure what he's supposed to be talking about, who he is supposed to be angry at, and not 100% sure where he is. I wonder if you have a Dr. Jill Tiberius in your life to help you navigate each step. If you do, you should text her, tell her she's failing you miserably, and get your money back.

I assume you're speaking about the marijuana pardon when you suggest he is "correct on this issue"? No, I don't think he's 'correct' on this issue. He did what he always seems to do--leverage the lives of human beings and their relative happiness in purely political terms. It's no surprise the announcement comes as the mid-terms approached. He's been in office nearly 2 years, and if he truly believed in the righteousness of his actions, he let victims of over-officious government twist in the wind until it made sense for him, not for them. That he was largely influential in the policies that had these people needing a presidential pardon to being with makes his actions all the more offensive. Questions remain as to whether or not he went far enough here, likely due in part to the strategic timing of this pardon. As for politicians being 'better or worse', it's hard to imagine a politician worse than Biden all things considered. He's been directly and consistently involved in legislation and policy that hurts people on a massive scale. I'd compare this action to a store owner sworn to the fight against big tobacco thinking he's doing the right by only selling the kids cigarettes with filters, or steering them to e-cigs.

You're throwing out questions on issues decided at the state level in a thread about Biden appealing for oil sanctuary status from the Saudi government? At least have the self-respect to fully form the question. Pot, generally, I don't care so much about on a personal level. On the societal level, I think the mixed messaging (legalize! decriminalized! medicinal!) has created confusion and conflict for far too many years. The average kid growing up over the past couple decades has been hearing how great it is, how impactful it can be, how it's going to be legal soon, and yet there remained issues that created problems pretty much across the board. It is interesting, though, that you chose marijuana to bolster the street cred of Joe Biden. Biden's lack of leadership on this issue---reveals incompetence at a minimum, a trend toward overt hostility and racial targeting in the worst case scenario. It's only a couple short years ago where he was against legalization and was called to the carpet by Corey Booker in a presidential debate. He's been responsible, in whole or part, for the destruction of neighborhoods and likely tens (hundreds?) of thousands of individuals as a result. Pot should be legalized, though not necessarily on the blue state model. NY has found a way to even screw this thing up. Biden and the energy crisis is 50 years in the making, and we both know it.

As always, I’m happy to answer any question posed by non-toxic posters. I don’t understand the question here. What are you referencing?

In your scenario, Biden started in the mid-1970s. Soon though. So so soon.

If you ever do, imo opinion it’s borderline impossible to leave the fries in too long.

Sometimes, with all the questions swirling as to who should have done what, who said what to whom, and against what one thinks is absolutely in their best interest, it’s just a good thing to have someone who cares enough about you to say “Sorry…no can do.”. All the people involved here and Tua didn’t have that person in his corner.

This feels wrong, and I’ll regret it later, but was this is as funny as TV gets.

50 years, Tibs, 50 years this guy has been in office, and you allow him to lead you by the nose. Now, you’re so simple as to post a link that literally shouts “JOE BIDEN CAN SEND A MESSAGE NOW!” and it goes right over your head. You buy into some cockamamie story about the some random hero democrat writing legislation to expose Republicans just before the midterms. I really can’t believe how extreme people like you are.