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Thank you.

Oh gosh no, the intelligence misinformation campaign run by former intelligence agents to influence the outcome of an election transcends the silliness of Hunter Biden and his penchant for debauchery and excess. I just can’t square how you feel an officer should allow himself to be run down in a Nissan Altima, and would look to blame/jail him/her instead of the person using their car as a weapon. Weird.

Thanks for the deeper dive. I already know what I feel about all this—and it isn’t that you can blindly trust anything coming out of either political party. The Irag war issue is pretty egregious. Frank suggests that “peaceful transition of power” is what drove the pursuit of Trump, but fabricating intel and waging an illegitimate war is just the way it goes—-nothing to see here. No bigs. Status quo. Seems to me that people ok with that shouldn’t be surprised at 1/6 pushback. Or, that the people in power might fabricate, spread disinformation, run their own version of intelligence ops to rile up the masses.

Apologies, you are already asleep.

AI suggests a new wide range of outcomes for convictions associated with the Espionage Act. 10 years, 30 years, Life. Trump is 79. The math is the math. Now settle down, drink your milf and eat your cookies. It’s nap time.

Welp, there you go. This is why people generally don’t trust government and what it represents. The “peaceful transition of power” from one party of war criminals to another doesn’t sound quite as lofty a premise as it used to.

Glad you brought this up. As bad as our candidates may be, something has always bothered me. GWB was accused, for all intents and purposes, of being a war criminal. The word from the liberals was that he fabricated intelligence (or participated in same), pushed the country into an unnecessary war that resulted in death, catastrophic injury, pain and suffering for millions around the world. Yet, he walked away, is by most accounts very chummy with Obama(s), Clintons etc. He left office and retired to private life and not a word of anger, rage or attempt to punish him and/or Cheney followed. He became a kindly Gampa, his daughter a mainstay on morning telly, and now recognized as a thoughtful and kindly old fellow paying tribute to his old friend. Moving ahead, Trump has classified documents in his possession, the goal is decades in prison. Never mind Biden obviously possessed/discussed/shared classified documents—and from times he had no ability to even argue he declassified—-and of course Hillary played fast and loose with national security. Why do you think one president accused of fabricating a war is left alone, another trafficking in classified documents gets the kindly elderly gentleman pass, yet Trump faced life in prison?

@The Frankish Reich This is why I asked Tibsy the question about officer behavior. Situations vary, but what I tend to see is many liberals will support police officers shooting certain people (identified as members of a political party), yet rationalize that an individual trying to run a person over with their Chrysler Pacifico is no big deal. In the case of Michael Brown (also a different situation), people like Tibs tend to support the guy trying to beat/kill the officer, inexplicably if you ask me. What say you, Frank?

Wasn’t it just a couple mos back that old Doc Fergs lifted a post from another poster (or reposted from one of his other screen names) without attribution? Seemed a deliberate attempt to deceive. Aid. Comfort. Oy.

Agreed, Doc is a good poster. My understanding is this forum was not a priority and he moved on. You know, a while back we had a poster @OldTimeAFLGuy who I always enjoyed hearing from. My recollection is he was an older guy, and he stopped posting around/after COVID. Hope he’s ok, too.

Sure, but Tibs was ruminating about officers calming down and de-escalating. That was an option for the officer who shot AB, yes?

Hi Mup, I should have said it doesn't make sense "to me". It still doesn't. The Biden DOJ executed an armed raid on Trump's house, with all the potential for adverse outcomes that entails. Even assuming you'e correct and everyone is dirty, by extension why would the Biden DOJ stop short of selectively releasing information about Trump while withholding data on themselves and others in democrat leadership? As for Jeffries looking to partner with Epstein, I'm only laying it out the way the game is played. Seems to me the best course of action would be an independent investigation lead by republicans to look into the relationship, to explore whether there was exploitation or pay for play, or if his relationship goes much deeper than that. In fact, I'd think Jeffries would want to tell his story, especially if he has nothing to hide. Which, by the way, is a story he could have already told...and maybe he did.

That makes little sense, Mup. The dems had those files under Biden. Trump was investigated up/down/sideways/front-to-back. The goal of the prior admin was to break him financially, spiritually, permanently. It's inconceivable that they would have access to information on that level and not release it. Meanwhile, Hakeem looks to partner w/ Eppy.

A friend attended a training seminar where they take an individual through various seminars simulating an officer walking/through and clearing a building. The idea is some people are hostile, others friendly, and it’s designed to help officers make the right decisions in stressful situations. The word is most fail the exercise (and certainly most civilians who go through it). They make the wrong call, “trust” the wrong people and often end up “dead” or having dispatched the wrong people. You most definitely could not pay me to do the work.

The interesting part is that I supported the officer in the Babbitt situation all things considered. The guy shows up for work, finds himself in a complete cl#sterf#ck of a situation and all hell breaks loose. He makes a snap decision in a pivotal moment that changed the lives of many people, certainly including his own. Still, it’s not disputed that she was unarmed, he certainly didn’t see a weapon, and all other things being equal, there was no scuffle for a gun or whatever. I wonder if he thinks back and wishes he could have de-escalated. However, for Tibs, in a case where a lunatic is trying to run a police officer over with their car, he wants the officer to go to jail for manslaughter. I’m even in agreement that upon reflection and with cooler heads prevailing, maybe there is something to be learned from all this. I’d bet more than anything that the officer wishes it went down differently, but that’s a different discussion.

I would like credit for keeping my response clean. I had a couple other options but I’m trying to be a better, more respectful person.

Tibsy, did you know that in most jurisdictions it’s an automatic FAIL if, during a road test, you try and run someone over? One lady apparently tries to run a police officer over in her Lexus and you’re talking de-escalation, calming things down and the police officer going to jail for stooping someone trying to run him down. I don’t have an issue with attempting to de-escalate, or attempting to calm things down, but you lose me with “manslaughter”. In the other case, an unarmed woman is walking toward an armed officer and he shoots her. That officer could have de-escalated, right? Calmed things down, that sort of thing. Just seeking clarity.

I don’t even know your mother, ask her yourself.

Ashley Babbitt was not in a car, not armed, and was shot and killed by a law enforcement officer who did not de-escalate. Thoughts on that situation relative to this one?

And Medicare. Beat it to death.

In fairness JB actually thought he was meeting with the Iron Sheik.

Actually, given your failure to condemn her comments, it seemed you were promoting v criticizing. Btw--I'm also hearing shots fired at President Reagan in DC, Michael Jordan to the White Sox Dbl-A team, and Joe Biden sharp as a tack. This is some news day. Still, stay tuned, cub reporter.

Timely newsflash, Jimmy Olsen. I’m working a story on a freighter that was bigger n most that went down on the Great Lake they call Gitche Gummee. Stay tuned.

Boom. 💥

Very interesting, though I'm not sure you named-dropped him, shared a picture of his poster if you didn't want to involve him in the dialogue. I can't speak to why you feel the way you do about Cuba v. America. I haven't visited Cuba, have no plans to, and don't see it as a flip of the coin sort of thing. I do think, though, that some Americans do not like dissenting voices and prefer freedom of speech only when viewed through the prism of imagined elitism---I think that describes you and explains why you see things the way you do.