
SectionC3
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Says the guy who chows down on Ivermectin and HCQ. What you haven't said is interesting, too. Where is all of the fraud in "non-ID" states, such as New York? Your position is that voter ID laws prevent fraud. So one would think that you'd have evidence that, in a state such as New York where one need not present ID to cast a ballot that we would have at least one or two instances where a person signed a poll book in someone else's name, voted, and then the actual voter arrived to vote, only to be rejected because the third person had already signed the poll book and cast a ballot in the voter's name. And yet, we have no instances in which that has occurred. Which means the idea that we need voter ID laws to prevent massive Election Day fraud is nothing but a--you guessed it--hoax!
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Give me a break. How many other people can you identify who have been so thwarted? And, in States where there are no such laws, how many instances of documented voter fraud do we have? I’m guessing it’s a number fairly close to your IQ. Low. So then the question becomes do we need the “fix” that you propose. The long lines in places like Georgia say no. They vote by affidavit ballot in New York state. Then the BOE determines the validity of the ballot.
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I don't disagree that he did not commit fraud. But it seems like we had an attempt to commit fraud here, do we not?
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You have it backwards. ID laws--the kind that you like--prevent votes. This is instance perhaps #32 of attempted voter fraud in a country where hundreds of millions, if not billions, of votes are cast every year. And where is all of this voter fraud in states without the ID laws you prefer? Turns out that it doesn't exist. Maybe he's persistent. Whatever. The point is if he thought wrong about whether he was entitled to vote his ignorance of the law does not excuse his actions.
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Nope. I acknowledged that states have say in how they conduct their elections. If, for example, Georgia wants to engage in a modern-day act of Jim Crow legislation that is not inconsistent with the federal constitution, then it may do so. Whether I agree with that approach is a completely different question. And it does not mean that there is a "case" for voter ID laws everywhere, let alone anywhere. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse.
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Trubisky to covid 19 list; Davis Webb elevated from PS
SectionC3 replied to YoloinOhio's topic in The Stadium Wall
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Doubtful because he didn’t actually vote. But this sure looks like an attempt to commit voter fraud. So where is the outrage? Maybe roger stone should be on the next flight to Richmond. Unless, of course, stop the steal was just a hoax. In which case I understand the lack of hand wringing here. States’ rights! Especially in this state election!
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What is better, no guns, or more guns?
SectionC3 replied to Security's topic in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
Looks like it was skank n’ scumbag day somewhere. -
I expect a lot of hand wringing from the stop the steal crowd about this today. Hoax. I don’t. But if they aren’t whiny deluded hypocrites, they’ll forcefully condemn this kid who loves and is proud of his dad. https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/glenn-youngkins-underage-son-tried-to-vote-in-virginia-governors-election-officials-say/2870695/
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Great guy. I hope it works out for him. And that he takes a Bills Super Bowl ring with him in mid-February.
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After Tuesday, the Neo cons. And, I hope, compromise. America moved back to the center. Voters told the fringes that they're sick of the BS. Particularly independents, who starkly illustrated their rejection of Trump in Virginia. I'm a center left D, and I will never vote for a Trumper. Ever. For the rest of my life. I strongly disagree about the "bogus" nature of the Russia investigation. Read Part II of the Mueller report. But I agree with your thought about the need for compromise. Reagan used to say that getting 80% of what one wants is a win. We need to return to those days.
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And here lies the problem. All of the socialism. Just another right wing lie. What is socialism? Medicare? Social security? Last I checked, that’s socialism. So if you’re against that, then that’s fine. Otherwise, you’re painting with a broad brush and engaging in a logical fallacy. All democrats are not socialists. A majority of them probably are not, in pint of fact. Just like all republicans are not liars, and all Trumpers are not traitorous racist insurrectionists.
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Another thing I agree with. You know why I hate Trump? Because he'a liar. Because he's unstable. Because he a narcissist. Because he's bad for business. Because he's a divider. He's exactly the personality type that should be nowhere near a position of public trust. And you know why a lot of center right and beyond people now hate Democrats? Because of Bill Clinton, who is outwardly a little more stable and much less of a divider but inwardly the same selfish, impulsive, narcissistic liar. Most of us here agree on more than we realized. I'm center left, others may not be. But maybe we're moving back toward a point where (not necessarily in this forum, but generally), we can start to find common ground. Stop demonizing each other (I think it's more Republicans demonizing Democrats, but Trump supporters have been subject to similar treatment, right or wrong), start compromising, and let's figure this thing out.
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Stamping the name takes the possibility of (mis)interpretation off of the table.
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No. It’s not. He had $1m in the account when the campaign bought the stamps. They are literally the most important thing to that campaign. Better to have way too many than not enough. And no, I’m not Byron.
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It was 150,000.
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Seems like you know a thing or two about hanging with socialists. Can’t say that I know any. Try 150,000 stamps.
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Nope. Otherwise she wouldn’t have been able to run in the Democratic primary. (Absent help from the county committee, which never would have materialized.)