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Remember Armon Gilliam? He should be on the list based on hair alone.

Alll I friggin said was I took offense to him calling people blobs of skin and/or vegetables. He has been making fun of Terri for weeks and I find it offensive. I did not say one damn thing indicating I or anyone else should dictate what happens. This part of the discussion was not even about whether or not she should be kept on life support. So please get down from your holier than thou soap box and bring your ilk with you Mr. pompous.

The difference is that is does not uselessy ridicule and demean a human being.

There is a lot of good in the fact that the living will awareness has gone way up. People should make their own decisions and document them properly. As for my prediction, we shall see. I hope it's wrong.

Calling another human being, whatever his or her condition, a useless blob of skin, or a misspelled name of a vegetable is not "realistic" or "funny". It is childish and obnoxious beyond description. You do not define what life is for the rest of us. What do your descriptions contribute to the thread? Nothing. They serve to purposely annoy others while denigrating a person. Congratulations.

Not really. Sorry for the confusion. My prediction is that Terri's case will (eventually) become one of the poster children for euthanasia. My opinion is that euthanasia is very dangerous for society. My guess is that others will feel or be swayed to feel that it is healthy for society. That is what I was trying (obtusely) to discuss.

It's only a prediction and it's the latter. Felos, upon the "discovery" of the pain Terri suffered, will advocate euthansia as an alternative to what was done. He and others like him will gradually be more and more in the news. You have already bought part of this argument as evidenced with your phrase "looming health care crisis" comment. Who decides how many dollars a life is worth?

I'm going to be obnoxious and try this again since Illy hijacked it the first time and turned it into an anatomy thread. If you feel like commenting on the overall point, have at it. If not, please go back to the hijacked thread or the 39 page Terri thread. This post is part opinion and part prediction. As Terri Schiavo dies of dehydration and starvation, the attorney for her husband has told us all that she is doing so painlessly and peacefully. Morphine has been administered to her, so it seems as if there may be some pain being felt. This isn't meant to be a thread about whether she should be kept on a feeding tube or not. It is about what I think will happen next (I hope I'm wrong). Currently the majority of articles in the press describe the "rational" arguments for pulling the tube and the "wildly flailing and emotional arguments" for keeping it in. They paint a picture that we are supposed to see in a certain way. Terry is compared with various forms of plant life and made fun of in the press and on this site and others. This is what disturbs me the most. Opinion: Human life is important and its value is being defaced in this process. Prediction: Felos and his gang will take it to the next level some months (probably about 4) after Terri's death. They will "discover" how much pain she went through in this process and argue that others in her situation should be spared this pain. This will be a gradual process of course, but over the years there will be attempts to raise the standard for what constitutes "life" and which "illusions" should be put to an end. Felos and others like him will lead the charge. It starts with a feeding tube, then maybe a wheelchair, or a voicebox, or whatever. It never really ends. I know this is a slippery slope argument, but it is there in front of us happening. I don't think it is a socialist vs. capitalist thing per se, but it does involve people who have a "utopian" view of what is best for society. They feel they are smarter than others and can be the judges of what value a life has. They may or may not succeed in their efforts, but they are wrong regardless of their future "successes". Human life has value and always will whether our society recognizes it or not.

If heaven is eternal, isn't all time on earth a bonus of sorts?

A. Way to stick to the overall point of the thread. B. Am I to understand that the "rational" doctors are administering a drug that they know is useless? This drug is being given as a placebo for other people? Ok. Would it be malpractice for a doctor to prescribe a drug that is not needed?

This post is part opinion and part prediction. As Terri Schiavo dies of dehydration and starvation, the attorney for her husband has told us all that she is doing so painlessly and peacefully. Morphine has been administered to her, so it seems as if there may be some pain being felt. This isn't meant to be a thread about whether she should be kept on a feeding tube or not. It is about what I think will happen next (I hope I'm wrong). Currently the majority of articles in the press describe the "rational" arguments for pulling the tube and the "wildly flailing and emotional arguments" for keeping it in. They paint a picture that we are supposed to see in a certain way. Terry is compared with various forms of plant life and made fun of in the press and on this site and others. This is what disturbs me the most. Opinion: Human life is important and its value is being defaced in this process. Prediction: Felos and his gang will take it to the next level some months (probably about 4) after Terri's death. They will "discover" how much pain she went through in this process and argue that others in her situation should be spared this pain. This will be a gradual process of course, but over the years there will be attempts to raise the standard for what constitutes "life" and which "illusions" should be put to an end. Felos and others like him will lead the charge. It starts with a feeding tube, then maybe a wheelchair, or a voicebox, or whatever. It never really ends. I know this is a slippery slope argument, but it is there in front of us happening. I don't think it is a socialist vs. capitalist thing per se, but it does involve people who have a "utopian" view of what is best for society. They feel they are smarter than others and can be the judges of what value a life has. They may or may not succeed in their efforts, but they are wrong regardless of their future "successes". Human life has value and always will whether our society recognizes it or not.

My socks were white with a yellow toe, but now they are white with a yellow toe and grayish brown on the bottom and have a small hole in the heel. Oh, wiat. A hole is not a color. Now I've gone off topic. Sorry. BTW, No. Nothing. Samoas. See above. I don't know what that means.

Flutie left some pixy dust behind.

They are both scofflaws.

No. Some dude from the northwest. I forget his name. I think he played for the Patriots.

I have an inside source that tells me the Bills are looking to move Losman to the Cowboys in exchange for a future HOF QB.

I thought I would be the only one to say Reed, but I'm glad I'm not. I think it could be him. If not Reed, I'd say maybe Aiken.

I've already ben about 1,000 times but you should all try Saratoga for a day of races. I'd like to go to all the major league parks. The Pirates new one is tops on my list because it leaves a great impression from TV.

I thought this post was written in a homer-ish fashion until I took a look at your avatar. He was lit up the entire second half of last year. And if you think it was because he was injured/tired you have about a 25% being right.

In related news...... BANG!!!!!!!! Wow that bang was BIG! Sorry Adam, I had to. That's been on here 300 times already.

The first one to use the words "hokey pokey" in this thread should be banned.... D'oh

I so glad someone typed that before me so that nobody would know that I would be dumb enough to write that. Oh wait.....

Or they have extremely strong religious beliefs which we as a society should rip from them because we are all smarter than they are.

The part of this article I find the funniest is that Clayton's "scoop" is basically extrapolation on Henry's public comments. He offers nothing in the way of real new information. Should I be surprised?

Stop pointing out the apples and oranges comparisons. All white people should be outraged, because one demented freak is a white guy. It doesn't matter that his demented freakdom was the only factor in his spree. Either that or the improper use of the Koran should be ignored by all muslims at all times because there was once a demented white freak.