C.Biscuit97

You’re the guy who tried to put down Andy Reid’s offensive resume. You have no idea what you’re talking about. And Lincoln Riley will be a NFL head coach. The game of football has passed you by old man. He days of 8 completed passes and runs on 3rd down are done.

I’ll be honest. I had no idea who was our STs coach and it really hasn’t been a major concern one way or the other.

Playing the percentages, I would say that Allen becoming a HOFer like those two is fairly low. I would love to see the results of this on a non Bills board. this would never happen because GB would never consider it. But if you did it, you can still draft a qb and have him sit under Rodgers.

Sure and that’s ideal. But Dalton is probably a better overall qb than Allen at this point.

Josh Allen has a 63 QB rating and has never completed higher than 56% of his passes. Yes, I would trade him for Rodgers. Every non Bills fans would.

He started a true freshman walk on. It was the first time ever a BCS school has ever done that. But awesome point. The 1st time head coach started a true freshman walk on (who became the 1st overall pick), replaced him with a 3rd round pick, and then replaced him with the 10th overall pick who is setting nfl records. Clearly, he has no idea what he is doing.

Good post and dialogue. My counters: 1) points by starter: Peterman 6 points/ game (2 GS), Anderson 5.5 (2 GS), Barkley 41/ game!!!, and Allen 16.2/ game (6 GS). I also put blame on the OC for the qb situation. Also, Hurts regressed under Daboll after being SEC offensive player of the year as a freshman. 2) Texas tech started a true freshman and averaged 33.7 points. 3) what’s more likely: KK thrives solely concentrating on offense in a nfl that values wide open offenses? Or Daboll fields another bottom 5 offense? Its not not so much about Daboll as it is about doing whatever you can to maximize a major investment. The Titans stuck with Mularkey to keep consistency with Mariota. The Bucs did the same thing with Dirk K. There is is no rule that says Buffalo has to watch awful offense. Ask yourself what Dick Jauron would do or what Sean McVay would do? Jauron keeps Daboll. Mayfield left because he was told he had to compete for his job. I think he worked out well for everyone involved. KK also started Mayfield as a true walk on freshman. So yeah, he deserves credit for helping his development. But great point about all those bums. KK only recruited/ developed Mayfield (again a walk on) and Mahomes. Clearly, he has no idea what he is doing. Did you see Daboll’s work with Tom Brady???

Honest question: but what has Palmer proven to be a qb coach? There is a big business of combine/ draft QB “gurus” who never sniff the nfl. These guys teach them certain skills to prepare for the combine and pro days. It feels like we have had every washed up qb on our roster at one point.

Any player that punches another player with a helmet on should be penalized for being an idiot.

Wow, didn’t expect that but if he really came off the bench, then that’s a big no no. He murdered people’s fantasy teams. I wonder if the Jags would rather have Mahomes or Watson right now. ?

With due respect, you don’t see the difference between being a failed first time head coach and a consistently bad OC? I think Tech averaged around 40 points while KK was there. He worked with the best young qb in the nfl and worked with the first overall pick this year. Daboll’s only “successes” have been with NE and Alabama, where we could have been successful there. This is is a bold move. SM, as much as I doubt his football philosophy, isn’t going anywhere. But the Rams fires their defensive minded coach to hire a young offensive one. The same with the Bears. Mahomes has one of the best offensive coaches in the nfl. Watson has an offensive head coach. I’d argue that Allen is rawer than any of those guys. But Bills fans should be happy with our 14 point offense.

That would be a quarterback controversy in the making.

I will say that Kaepernick’s last “awful” season say him throw 16 tds and 4 ints. These qbs aren’t close to those “awful” numbers.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/DaboBr0.htm

Yeah, RI has shown himself to be a upright citizen.

If only our dads had nfl jobs.

His offensive evaluation has been dreadful to be kind. Our offense is awful.

Typical WEO. You spent all offseason crushing Reid being overrated as an Offensive coach, now you’re giving him credit for Mahomes? Or Mahomes is such a special talent that his college coach didn’t help him get 50 tds in college? Which one is it? Or perhaps, and this is wild, maybe both guys really helped Mahomes develop into a record setting nfl qb? Aaron Rodgers wont make it in the nfl because he was a Tedford qb. Mahomes is just an air raid product. Great franchise take risks. But when you have an offense that is averaging 14 points/ game after scoring 60 the last 2 weeks, why upset that? Our number 1 priority is developing Josh Allen. Daboll has no history of being a dynamic offensive mind. For once, wouldn’t it be nice to the team that hired the young, gifted coach? Of course, we’ll fire Daboll and hire Nate Hackett because his dad gave McDermott a job once.

In the last 4 years, he’s developed Pat Mahomes, Baker Mayfield, and David Webb. Leach has done anything close to this. I know we watch antiquated football in Buffalo but wide open passing attacks is what the league is becoming. This is a move a forward thinking franchise makes. Of course, we throw parades when our Qb completed 8 passes so we cause heart attacks if we start averaging more than 14 points/ game. I’m sure he will have no problem finding some new ones.

Newton passed for 4,000 yards, completed 60% of his passes, had 700 yards rushing, and 14 rush tds as a rookie on a team that was 1-15 the year before him.

I feel less bad when I realize he got paid a lot of money simply because his dad was a former coach and friends with Marrone. these guys are handed opportunities that other coaches need to grind to get because of a family connection. If Hackett’s dad wasn’t a nfl cos h, he is a high school coach. Things worked out pretty good for Nate.

Don’t disagree. But the Bills, before playing 2 3 win teams, were having an historically bad season. SM is safe for a 3rd year as should DM, as annoying as he is. He definitely is one a short leash though next year.

Has Daboll ever been a good OC?

McDermott has shown he knows what he is doing on offense but he has looked terrible with offensive decisions. Enter Kliff. He was over his head as a first time head coach but he still had some great offenses. Coming off getting fired, a nfl OC job is the perfect way to fix his rep. He has shown a history of developing nfl qbs. You hire him and let him pick some offensive talent here. This regime is all about Josh Allen. Personally, I think it was an insult risky pick but hiring Daboll, as nice of a guy as he probably is, isn’t going all out for Allen. Hire a guy with a proven offensive track record. This is the type of thinking that separates teams like the Rams and the Jags. https://www.google.com/amp/s/touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/11/25/why-kliff-kingsbury-should-be-the-nfls-next-offensive-coordinator-hire/amp/

I mean he’s been living off his defense since Buffalo. His offenses consistently suck but maybe he’s that overseer coach type. that said, I personally think the Bills should move on from our OC this offseason.