C.Biscuit97

What team is giving up a high pick for a running back who just had a 4 game suspension? He killed his trade value. I think you really have to work hard to blame the Lynch trade on the Bills. Peters is definitely more open to debate. But I think crappy qbs was more of the problem than not having Peters. While they didn’t have a Peters HOF talent, they had serviceable ones. The drop off from Peters to say some random Bills LT I can’t remember after he left isn’t close to the Grand Canyon between Brady and Losman.

Yeah with Rex, he inherited a top 3 defense and had a top 10 scoring offense. That is all on him. im just saying before Rex, if you traded Brady to the Bills, they are in the playoffs consistently and that 2014 team might have won the SB. I do think it’s that simple. But this would be a developed qb because I didn’t trust the Bills to develop a guy.

I get it’s a lot of money. But what are the chances you get someone who passes for 5,000 yards and 30 tds? it’s weird. Because I bet if we put a poll up, the majority of fans would pay Allen big money right now. Yet, people are hesitate to pay Dak. Good post and I agree with a lot of it. But I watch other teams. Bills fans have such a terrible concept of good qb play, with good reason. 200 yards passing is like a miracle for us. If your nfl qb is averaging less than 200 yards passing and completing under 60% of his passes, it’s below average qb play. Plain and simple. i definitely see why people can get excited. He has a great attitude, physical skills, and wants to be great. My problem is his track record hasn’t really shown a lot of consistent greatness. There are flashes and quarters/ halves. But it’s never a whole game (except Miami, his numbers are built on Dolphin Blood).

This team is set up to win with almost any decent qb. Barkley is not a decent qb. But he’s nice and Allen like him so that’s all that matters.

Like our current coach? ? again, getting 7 wins out of this qbs is a miracle. People always act like coaches don’t play to win. Well if your qbs are Trent and JP, I would be conservative too. If your qb is Rodgers or Brees, I’m sure you are going to coach a little different. McCoy was really good here for his first 3 years here. He was our best offensive player until his final year. Not even close to Gore.

Hope you’re not talking about Lynch? Dude was an idiot in Buffalo. He forced their hand. And after he got suspended, he was still skiing in Buffalo bars. He also got busted with weed and guns. Dude was a moron here bad forced their hands. the Peters one was more complicated. They have him a new contract and he wanted another for being a LT after playing like half of a season. But in hindsight, he was worth it. But they got Wood from that and LT wasn’t holding the Bills back from making the playoffs. The Eagles lost Peters and won the SB. LT has become an overrated position.

I totally get what you’re saying but that’s a terrible reason to make a HOF. Dude is a stud for being a NFL rb as long as he has. But how many times was he a top 5 rb? I’d rather have 5 great seasons of Terrell Davis than 15 kinda good seasons of Gore. As the last Jauron defender left, he won 7 games with JP and Trent. He won 13 with Shane Matthews. Yes if he had a Brady or top qb, he would have made the playoffs. People overrate GMs and coaches. There’s like 3 who are real difference makers. It all starts with the qb and then building the team around him. We build our teams around Trent and JP. That was the problem. They drafted HOFers.

Because he played forever. Which is great. He’s made 4 pro bowls in 15 years! He is a good not great player. Dude, we won 7 games with JP Losman and Trent Edwards. Those aren’t playoff teams with a Top Qb?

Yeah, you didn’t answer my question. Where are the guys who actually play with him, and not sit on the couch, say he is a bad teammate?

I was thinking of more the Jones trade and the Edmunds (I really like him but it could be argued they could have drafted at the same spot and gotten two better players). And it’s to early to say for sure on Allen. And besides the Sammy trade (who was one of the best college receivers I have ever seen), Whaley made some really good trades. For EJ, he traded down and got Kiko, who became Shady. And he also got Hughes for Sheppard. Pretty decent.

Diggs probably couldn’t care less haha. Gilmore and him are probably friends.

I know haha. Ok, that’s fine.

I mean it was beyond stupid. Like starting Nate Peterman stupid. And it’s amazing how some people think fair criticism (24th in QBR) is hate. If anything, I like Allen more as a person since we have drafted him. I think he’s a real good dude and have heard nothing but good things about him. But I’m still not convinced he is consistent enough to be a franchise qb and some fans dismiss his faults a little too easily. But there isn’t an ounce of hate for him as a dude.

Stop trading up. It’s annoying.

Flacco is far away the best of that group. Shoot, he may look better in camp than Allen. But he would be the best backup choice. Again, where are the character concerns about Newton from Carolina??? Yeah, I’m sure They hated Newton when they went to the SB which helped them all get better jobs.

All this proves is the Bills rosters were generally fine. Just couldn’t find a qb. It’s that simple. and Gore isn’t that good. He was not a special player. He is the Harold Baines of football.

I was starting my sophomore year in college all through training camp at receiver. Having possibly the best camp of anyone on the team. Spectacular catches. Coaches pulling me aside, telling me the offense is going through me and I was going to have 100 catches easy. Well, we had a play that was an automatic audible. Well, I completely blanked and ran the same play wrong 3 times in a row!! After that, I was Zay Jones. Started dropping everything and lost my starting job. Ended up switching to defense and while I had some moments there, it wasn’t the same. If that play doesn’t happen in practice, I probably dominate. Eventually I get drafted (maybe by the Bills who take a chance on a local kid). I become good friends with Gronk, offseason hangout buddies in WNY. Gronk takes me to a Hollywood party. I meet Margot Robbie. We fall madly in love. Get married, 2 kids, 2 dogs, beachfront place in Malibu. I’m earning millions but my wife makes even more than me! Eventually, things happen with our Colombian nanny and Margot and I divorce. I struggle post nfl career to not being constantly praised and with my injuries, I get hooked on pills because weed is the devil’s lettuce. Well a couple of prison stints later, I become clean and go on talk shows. The networks notice and I get a Romo type deal to be a commentator. And then at a SB party, I met a 25 year old upcoming pop star and boom, 2nd marriage and 4 more kids. Life is great. ?

Tre is awesome. But how can you say they were right? One, they could have kept Gilmore and drafted White. Lockdown central. They could have kept Gilmore and drafted Mahomes or Watson. again, Tre is one of the best in the game. But he’s still a cb. You aren’t “right” if you let a DPOY walk for nothing and pass up 2 top 5 caliber qbs, one who has the chance to be one of best ever. It’s worked out ok for us so far, but we were hardly “right.” I think that would hurt even more. ? and then she started watching the Bills when all she used to do is complain about you watching them (that’s my ex ?). ?

Yeah, those re-tweets are out of control! Deion Sanders is embarrassed by Gilmore’s cockiness.

How many of the UDFAs were Defensive Player of the Year? How many times did they hold the top offense in the nfl to 3 points in the SB? i mean if some of you can’t admit Gilmore is really good by now, y’all just some salty ex lovers. ? They spent a 1st rounder on McCourty. Some fans are trying really hard to put Gilmore down. Your ex girlfriend got married to a guy who is better looking and has more money than you. And she got a boob job, starting hitting the gym real hard, and now looks like a supermodel. Just work on improving yourself. ?

I get what you’re saying but you have to think SB right now, even if it sounds crazy. I’d say it’s 50-50 that Allen gets that big deal but if he does, everything changes. This is the window to go all in, which I think they have done a pretty good job with. But for all this talk about being salary cap “wizards,” Basically they had a bunch of cheap young guys who hadn’t gotta paid yet. When Tre and possibly Allen get their money, there goes the salary cap.

Where are the reports of coaches and players saying one negative thing about Cam in the lockerroom? We also traded for Benjamin who was a fat loser in Carolina. The Majority of the people who have the most problem with Newton are grumpy (normally older) fans who think Rivers trash talking is a good ol’ boy having fun and when Newton does it, he’s a problem in the lockerroom. he isn’t coming here and he shouldn’t. He’s too good to be a backup for Allen. I just hope he’s healthy and gets to shut people up. I’ve never seen a good qb take as much crap as he does.

I don’t want to really win the SB this year. But let’s really go for it in 5 years when we have tons of cap space!!! Stupid KC. Look at their lack of cap space. I bet they totally regret all those contracts now!!! and I don’t want to pay JC that much. So overrated. We already have enough “pass rushers” who don’t get sacks. I’d rather have Shaq at 10 than JC at $18 (and Murphy at $0 ?).

Maybe Allen should miss them in practice and then play like a MVP in games. ? Guy certainly has a cannon. In terms of pure distance throwing, is he the strongest arm? I was young for the Kelly years so while he’s the best all around, I’m not sure of his full arm strength. Losman had a cannon. And a sneaky strongest Bill arm would be EJ. When he was playing like a robot and throwing like he was playing darts, he had a cannon.

Orton got hated on way less than Gilmore without a doubt. There were some fans who even liked him. It was weird. I believe there was a thread where some fans were devastated he wasn’t coming back.