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Oh jeez Raiders what a stupid penalty! but it didn’t even look late tbh

These might be the two worst MNF games in recent memory. Just not competitive whatsoever

The chasm between a Desmond Ridder type QB and the top QBs in this league is larger than the grand canyon.

Caleb is just throwing the ball too hard on several plays when some touch is needed.

Voters can’t just say that it’s over, that would taint the award. But Barkley has not done anything great the past couple games and Josh just had a 4 game stat line for the ages and went 3-1 vs good teams not cream puffs. Its over. and Lamar is not getting a 3rd MVP from these voters until he proves he can win some playoff games. He was gifted the award last season largely based on team record.

Brady has been very good obviously but let’s be real. When Allen is going off script and making sick throws… or on the run while getting blasted near the sidelines making perfect passes, it’s all Josh Allen’s greatness right there. Joe Brady will get a HC job like Daboll courtesy of JA.

The Lions are the first team we’ve played in a while where i feel like they could not be stopped once they got rolling. Thats what it must feel like when teams play the Bills sometimes and they are a runaway freight train. The Rams game i just felt like Stafford, Nacua and Kupp were just having an exceptional night that could not be replicated. I’d like to play Detroit again only because it would mean the Bills are in the Super Bowl. But not sure i want to see that offense again this season.

Moral of the story, for the rest of Josh’s career with the Buffalo Bills, there will be no more Diva WR’s in the locker room. They are toxic and not needed here.

Watching Bass there was like watching a pro golfer rimming out a 6-inch tap in putt. It happens, but let's hope it only happens once in 10 years or whatever...

I'm enjoying the win over Detroit immensely, but people don't want to hear this. Right now, however, defense is a flaw for teams like Detroit, Buffalo and Baltimore. We hope it somehow gets fixed and doesn't become a fatal flaw in the playoffs for our team.

Yeah, well said. The MVP immortalizes him and cements his ticket to the HOF. It separates him from all the "Hall of Very Good" players like he gets compared to sometimes like Philip Rivers. Look, we all want him and the Bills to win the Super Bowl. But that's not all in his control. The MVP is. When his career in Buffalo is over, and he moves back to his native California, I want this insane football player to leave Buffalo with some hardware.. and league MVP is the most massive chunk of hardware anyone can attain individually.

It's not happening. Not because Lamar isn't great but there are other issues at play. He would literally have to have triple Josh Allen's production. Reason being is Lamar won it last year with decent stats but not extraordinary at all. His team was the 1 seed and had excellent D and special teams too. He flamed out in the playoffs, again. He doesn't beat Mahomes. Voters just aren't giving it to Lamar a 3rd time, especially when Allen is having the season he is having.

I don't know. in 2023 Lamar won that National TV road game vs San Fran late last season and he went from 2nd in the MVP race to leading at -180 with two weeks remaining and he was basically unanimous. Josh right now is the favorite at -1000, Lamar is second at +700. That is a grand canyon sized gap. Barkley fell all the way to +1300. Allen's last 4 games, all nationally televised in which two were on the road at quality teams. 1,114 passing yards 223 rush yards 15 TD's (8 passing, 7 rushing) 1 int/fumbles (zero the past 3 games) 0 sacks taken You can't play QB any better than that. Someone let me know when another QB puts together a 4 game stretch with a stat line like that. Not to mention he beat the best team in the AFC, the 9-0 Chiefs, and the best team in the NFC, 12-1 Lions. They have scored 30+ points in 11 games in which national media has said it's a down year for Buffalo and he doesn't have the talent around him like Lamar does or Philly/Detroit. Josh will not have to artificially inflate his stats against the Pats and Jets. Voters know those game might be "stay healthy" games for the Bills at this point. Josh proved it. Several TV commenters like Rex, Greenberg and Tedy Bruschi have said the race is over this morning. He left Detroit with the MVP in his carry on bag and it's awesome for him and the city of Buffalo.

The Bills Oline can dominate the trenches against anyone especially when they are super motivated (i.e. playoff games). If the Bills needs to use ground and pound in rough weather the RB room is terrific and they can win that way. In past years I feel as though the RB room was not as deep as this crew and it depended more on Allen to make splashy pass plays which is hard in cold/wind.

Goff is the first QB to throw for 400+ yards and 5 TD's, no int's and lose. A few weeks ago, he's also the only QB to throw 5 interceptions and win. How crazy is that.

That’s the thing. Buffalo’s offense is lights out in these two dome games but the D is really not up to stopping these two very good QBs and their weapons. So the tradeoff is our offense suffers a bit in weather games but the D really plays better in that environment.

The 2nd onsides was well executed imo because they targeted our defensive player, Taron. I’d rather kick to him than our pass catchers that were lined up. But Taron is the man and made the play after it bounced into his mask at first.

this doesn’t look great folks. plus Houston has a nasty defense and a capable offense. Pittsburgh will be a handful there, and Denver will want to beat KC in the worst way possible.

Although the secret sauce of this defense are takeaways. and the takeaway in the 3rd quarter changed the entire complexion of the game.

Ouch! thank god for JA17 and the offense on this brilliant win today, but what do we make of this? I really don’t think this pass defense the last two weeks can lead them to an AFC title let alone Super Bowl. How does it get fixed?

The last run when he got slung down on his shoulder. he grimaced when he got up. The field mics i though picked up someone asking him if he’s ok.

Ok i know this isn’t the thread but i don’t want that matchup

Bass’ eyes look so much like Norwoods. jeebuz