dave mcbride

He's also the best receiver on the team--the only one capable of catching downfield passes with any regularity. I'm not saying he's good, by the way! It's a sad state of affairs.

Could be. I can't recall the exact details.

SHould have been 3 for Rodgers! (Remember the Gilmore drop in 2014?)

Agree 100 percent. See Dog's post above.

Ah, the ol’ eyeball metric. Now we know we’ve reached rock bottom. I’m out.

At least *try* to answer the question using accepted statistical measures rather than cherry picking individual games!!! And when did I ask about the Browns?? Man. This board gets depressing.

Technically, not a drop at all. It was a “pass defensed” - the db got his hand in right away right at the point of where the ball wound up in his hands and swatted it away. A better wr with stronger hands (boldin, watkins) hangs on, but most wrs in the league don’t make that catch.

Quantify his terribleness using dvoa and other accepted metrics for judging qb and team offense play between 2015-17 (hint - raw passing yards ain’t one of them).

Isn't the larger point that while SB aspirations are great and all, we're at the stage where we're wondering if they can get a td more than once every three games? Point being that SB aspirations as a lodestar is a purely theoretical exercise with a franchise that's this lousy. Things that get bad often stay bad. I would have taken Allen and kept Taylor, which they could have easily done.

This is ridiculous. Why is he a bad person? If you don't have specifics that credibly show him to be a bad person (using a reasonably standard definition), you should retract that. You're thinking of 2002, not 03. Going into the final week, they were 7th in points, 10th in yards, and were at a league-record tying level for fewest turnovers. They finished 11th in both yards and points in 2002, so you're incorrect. Edit: in 2016, they finished 10th in offensive DVOA (if memory serves, they were at 6th or 7th before the final game). They finished 18th in offensive DVOA in 2002. People forget how bad that offense was in the second half of that season. Bledsoe had 8 tds, 10 ints, and a bunch of fumbles over the final 8 games of that year.

The Bills offense in 2016 was their best offense this century through week 16 (Taylor didn't play in week 17). Not really the point at all, but carry on!

He ain’t wrong.

Oh, absolutely. I will add (as I did earlier) that while his talents are meager, he is pretty good at escapabilty in the pocket.

I will say that watching the NO receivers repeatedly win HARD contested catches, it can’t be argued that this WR corps doesn’t let all of the qbs down.

One was in straight up garbage time, so he only gets credit for one by me.

41!

Yeah, see my post above. I am no kb fan, but i don’t know as if he’s capable of sharp cutting. He is not a “quicks” player.

That may be the case but it’s hard to say. Benjamin is not a “quicks” player and probably unable to do anything but round his routes. Peterman has to know this. He’s not Sammy Watkins.

That was not Benjamin’s fault. It was a straight up bad throw.

I think Peterman is terrible, but I will say that he has pretty good pocket escapability.

24 -- one td was a defensive score. But the general point is correct.

The score was actually 34-7 at that point.

I'm starting the Bears D.

It was a terrible pass.

Second one was. It was an awful pass - way behind the receiver. I replayed it multiple times.