ndirish1978

What if McFadden is there and we trade our 1 and 4 for their 2 1s? Would that work out according to the value chart?

I would request that you heed your own advice. Get out

I do agree with the post about forcing us to take a WR...to a point. I don't really think the FO will hesitate to take a CB in the 1st and grab our 2WR in the 2nd or 3rd if it really came down to it. What I DID like about the Bryant Johnson move is they obviously didn't cave and give tons of money to an untested player. As far as reaches go in the draft, I think the term is stupid. No players go in to the draft with a guaranteed pro effectiveness rating, we basically valuate them like art, they are worth what people are willing to pay them. Mandarich and Leaf were not "reaches" when they were taken, but because they were overvalued and didn't produce we feel the need to justify the pre-draft ranking system and call them "busts." Using the criteria everyone espouses as far as how far down you could move and still get a player, Tom Brady would have been a HUGE reach even as a 4th rd pick, when obviously his value turned out to be greater than any other players. Bottom line, take who you want on your team when it's your turn.

The atmosphere in my living room was also terrible, what with me severely spraining my wrist against the wall, spilling a table full of booze in the process

If anyone has a magic wand I'm willing to bet it's Hamdan. We should see if he will loan it to the front office for the draft.

Come on Avenger, when you say "the 10 year old kid in front of me," you really mean you don't you? Let it out buddy, it's ok to cry, you're in a safe place.

Plus with the win we wouldn't have people telling us to trade down!

I agree completely. It is a little sad to see people get so worked up about a player we don't even have and then be devastated when we don't take him (See: Broderick Bunkley, Winston Justice).

Only if he is related to Art Monk. In that case, trade up for him and grab him at 2

I see your point. One caveat about your theory, it assumes there is really only 1 player the team is targetting. If we have several WRs with similar grades then it makes a lot of sense to trade down because you can just look at a team's roster and see if they need WRs. Let's say we have 3 Wrs with similar grades and only 2 teams in the next 10 picks look like they might take a receiver: trade down 8-10 picks, pick up another pick and get one of your 3 guys. If however they are really only interested in 1 WR then I have no problem with them staying put, even if he is considered a "reach."

I get a little antsy that we haven't picked up a WR, TE or CB. Then I realize there really weren't any signable players at our needs positions, we landed some good ones and we passed on overspending. What do you guys think?

Ditto, I thought he had potential, but he wanted a paycheck more than chance to prove himself I suppose

So let me get this straight...his nagging injury is a GOOD thing?

how bout a hug? a lot of animosity for such an innocuous comment

At least Spitzer got "to know" an aspiring singer. What did SDS get out of it?!

YOURBooty is busted!!! HAhaHAHAHAHA

My post count is down by like 700!

Thanks for the spam guys

EndZone that is the worst avatar I have ever seen

I had the same thing happen and I freaked out I figured 1- we made a HUGE offseason move OR 2-We Moved in the offseason--> to Toronto, Baltimore Colts style

I thought we made a blockbuster move and the board crashed in response to us trading JP for Roy Williams.

I would LOVE to get shaw at 3

I don't really think we learned much from the press conference other than: we will use our TEs at FB, they have not ruled out drafting a WR early and we really need help at LB. Not knocking you at all, i just don't think you can read too much into the press conference.

and when the RBs break through the line who exactly is supposed to tackle them in order to imprive out 28th ranked D against the run, Coy Wire? We need 2 playmaking LBs and a RB before we even think about drafting D line on the first day.

Leonard is a 2nd rd pick