Coach Tuesday

Huh, I'm agreeing with you for once.

If he did what stuff? It just depends on what he did. If he made unwanted advances/harassed female employees, I'm with you 100%. If he dated subordinates in consensual relationships, but failed to disclose it to the owners in violation of company policy (and perhaps used personal email accounts to correspond with his partners, which could be the "other stuff"), it's fairly common activity and possibly not all that reprehensible. We just don't know what he did, yet.

Damn. That's a sad way to go out for a hometown kid who worked his way up. Like him or hate him, he worked his tail off for both franchises.

Pettine loves his cornerbacks.

That Browns FO is a bunch of chatterboxes.

Don't be afraid of opinions.

You guys can stop guessing, the answer was revealed up-thread. Do people even read threads before replying to them?

He's not really like Jay Cutler as an overall player/person - but both players over-rely on their arm strength to their advantage and disadvantage. Cutler never bothered to fix his mechanics and would heave the ball up for grabs off his back foot 2-5 times per game. Allen has flashed some of that in college and it's up to him to fix it.

He’s trash

The real question is which QB Beane was willing to pay 3 firsts for - would it have been Allen or Darnold?

But this is also what bugs me about the pick. It will likely take years to try to develop the guy and the debate will rage within the fanbase and locker room about whether he has “it” or not - with one camp insisting he has he tools and blaming the coaches for not developing him, and another constituency convinced he’ll never be successful. Talented QBs who lack a feel for the game suck years out of a franchise and kill coaches’ careers. I just don’t think this was a risk worth taking with Rosen sitting there. Then again, Rosen is the type who would go straight to the owner (or media) with his gripes about the pop gun offense that McDermott seems to favor, so I get why he wasn’t the choice... Ugh.

He was amazing in “Jackie Brown.”

Good stuff

You know, I’m starting to wonder. I was convinced he was the guy for us at 7 and I’ve been pissed about it since. And I tend to agree with the notion that these supposed character concerns are made-up and overblown around draft season, and Highsmith’s knife-twist seems unprofessional and unfair. But yet... I’m starting to wonder. Something about these stories is starting to stick with me. I suspect there is more that Highsmith didn’t say. It does seem like Rosen just isn’t very well-liked, regardless of what his left tackle has to say about it... There is something there, I think.

Not buying it.

Let us know when it's ok to express our opinions.

Something is really off with those two...

IIRC Chan cut Edwards when he ran out of bounds on 4th down (last play of the game) instead of taking a shot downfield.

I think we've already found out.

They don't have any elite players on that D (except maybe Tre), and they lack speed and depth at linebacker - they need Edmunds to develop quickly. But they're solid across the board and should be very difficult to run on next year.

My money's on the Saints - they loved Mayfield and traded away their 2019 #1 during the draft.

It's worth very little. The most concerning aspect of the 5-int game was that on a number of those throws (and I believe a 6th int was dropped), he just heaved it up for grabs because he lacked the arm strength to make a precision pass. He'll be out of the league in a year or two.

Loading up on slot receivers is strange to me - Allen's weakness is that he lacks touch on short crossing routes - that will need to be corrected ASAP.

Interesting. Next year's #1 will be a passrusher or WR.

If they’d taken the other (right) Josh and all of their other picks were the same, this would go down as a legendary draft. What I keep coming back to is the risk factor - I understand why this regime wanted Allen, but I continue to feel like they missed an opportunity to stabilize the QB position.