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The DT he played with at Virginia Tech? Tim Settle.

I am in lockstep with you both. While I like the idea of adding Breece Hall or Kenneth Walker III to the team if either are on the clock at 57 - I feel we'd be really shorting ourselves waiting for WR in Round 3. Meanwhile, I love Cook's tape, especially as a Pass Catcher. And there's only 2 WR's I like for the Bills more than Alec Pierce (Skyy Moore and Christian Watson) and they'll both be gone (as will George Pickens, but he lacks the speed I think we're looking for). We'd be far better off going WR in Round 2 and RB in Round 3 instead of the other way around.

We don't know that. All we know is that they haven't extended him yet and want to see how he performs this season in a Contract year. Could we hedge our bets a bit by taking a LB in Round 2? Yes. But that will be in conjunction with Tremaine, not as a replacement.

Tremaine Edmunds isn't going to be traded. Regardless of how you feel of his play (which isn't as bad as some of you posters make it seem), he's the signal caller of the #1 Defense in the league for years running. We're not going to disrupt the flow of this Defense in this important season by hoping that a 2nd Round pick is going to not only cause us to miss a step in his Rookie season, but make it perform better. They vastly improved the Defensive Line in front of him. They brought in the DT he played with in College. This wasn't just a coincidence. They want to see if it'll pay dividends for Tremaine. He's going to get this season. It's time to let it go.

I'm hoping someone from this list: CB Andrew Booth Jr. WR Christian Watson WR Skyy Moore WR George Pickens LB Nakobe Dean RB Breece Hall RB Kenneth Walker III OT Bernhard Raimann WR Alec Pierce WR Calvin Austin III TE Trey McBride EDGE David Ojabo LB Christian Harris S Jalen Pitre CB Kyler Gordon CB Roger McCreary LB Chad Muma CB Tariq Woolen

No, it came from a Sirius XM Analyst - https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/draft-picks-2022-cut-veterans/ Epenesa was a 2nd Round Pick, Ford was a high 2nd Round Pick, and Moss was a 3rd Round Pick. All are young. High Draft Picks who are young are desirable in trades as teams may have liked them coming out of College over the past few years and could feel that they can get more out of them in their system and a change in scenery. Obviously you're not going to get the same return in where you picked them. But you could get a value somewhere between 2 rounds later or so. If you combine one (or more) of them with 57 and some later round picks - I think you'd be surprised at where you could get. Especially at some of the lower costs of trade ups that occured in Round 1. And I don't think it's crazy to think mid round picks the following year could be in play also.

No, I don't see them moving their 3rd. But there was some scuttlebutt that they may be interested in moving veterans to move up. You could package someone like Epenesa, Ford, or Moss. Could also trade mid round picks from next year. And picks in Rounds 5-7. Though I know no one on this thread wants to hear it, I think they'd be more likely to do it for a guy like Christian Watson or Skyy Moore if they were going to move up again. I think if Hall or Walker is there at 57, I could see them doing it. But I'd think James Cook or Rachaad White in the 3rd is more likely at this point.

I said it repeatedly in this thread. No RB would be selected in Round 1. Breece Hall was not the prospect that Najee Harris or Travis Etienne were coming out. Would not shock me in the least if he were still on the board at 57.

Kaiir Elam was NOT a reach. Cole Strange, THAT was a reach.

"Man, I'm feeling great! We're gonna win the Super Bowl man!"

Wouldn't surprise me either. My stance is that none of these guys left over are someone you count on as anything more than spot duty at this point. I was referring to fans who were saying we just sign Joe Haden or Xavier Rhodes and we were good to go without having to Draft anyone.

"Beane doesn't value CB2 and won't spend a 1st" "The plan is still to sign a veteran CB, we may not even draft one at all" 😆😆😆😆😆

I'd have assumed you'd have been thrilled because his arms aren't under 30". He was the guy they liked. He has the speed neither has. A lot of people *ahem* said something similar when we drafted Josh Allen. Reports are Dallas liked Elam. Even if they weren't going to take him, if he was their guy above all others, why risk the possibility of someone possibly trading in front of us in Dallas' slot to take him with teams knowing we needed CB? Relax.

I'm just thrilled Beane got a CB he wanted in Round 1. I spent the whole Draft process being told CB in Round 1 wasn't necessary and I felt like I was taking crazy pills listening to it.

I'd really like someone to do another NFL Draft movie and do it more accurately to the reality this time. Since when is 2 1st's and a 3rd to acquire the #1 Pick in the Draft during a year that has a Franchise QB in the pool something you balk at?

Love: 7 - Sauce Gardner (Trade Up) 57 - Kenneth Walker III Expect: 25 - Andrew Booth Jr. 57 - Alec Pierce Settle For: 25 - Kyler Gordon 57 - Calvin Austin III

Touché 😆 Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating any higher than a 5th for Araiza.

Some names I'm surprised to see they didn't meet with: DB Daxton Hill WR Christian Watson WR Skyy Moore WR Alec Pierce RB Kenneth Walker III

If Sauce Gardner, Derek Stingley, Garrett Wilson, Jameson Williams (surely all 4 of these are gone), Chris Olave, Andrew Booth, and Trent McDuffie are all gone by 25 (and we haven't moved up to secure one of them) - Kyler Gordon would probably top the list of my "okay, that works, I'm fine with it at 25" picks that also include Daxton Hill, Kaiir Elam, Christian Watson, and Breece Hall. Though I think like many have pointed out, I'd prefer to move down and pick up more pick(s) to use to move up from 57 with to secure a couple from that list or someone like Skyy Moore, Roger McCreary, Kenneth Walker III, Alec Pierce, or Tariq Woolen (all of which might not be there at 57), in conjunction with one of those 5 guys I mentioned.

Exactly this. I feel this was always the plan and his not addressing the CB position in any way confirms it in my mind. The vets that are left over are not the type you should feel comfortable rolling with by themselves. They're all 30 or older, injury prone, haven't started a full season in some time, and/or have declined in play. They're the type you rotate in and that provide depth. I think we'll sign someone when guys get desperate before camp. But it will be in conjunction with someone we draft in Round 1 or Round 2.

He drafts 1 CB within the first two rounds (maybe doubles up over the span of the entire draft), 1 WR with an emphasis on speed within the first 3 rounds (also maybe doubles up by the end), a RB that provides pass catching ability and speed somewhere between rounds 2-4, and a God of Punting for good measure 😛

But of that list, how many were 1st Round talents comparable to Trent McDuffie? Zero. It's not fair to compare what he's put on film and his scouting report against guys who were not at his level. There are quite a few Undrafted Free Agents on that list.

The only "fact" you've proven is that outside CB's way more often than not have longer arms. There isn't any real data of late on how a prospect the calibur of McDuffie performed at the next level. Comparing 5th and 3rd round picks who came into the league just last season is not a fair comparison. That's because it's not as simple to find as you've made it seem. You can search combine measurements year by year, but there's no database you can look at of Cornerbacks throughout history that have arms under 30".

Exactly my point. One negative trait doesn't discount everything. It's fair to have a concern about a prospects measurements. But it's unfair to discount 3 years of high level production and everything else on a scouting report for one thing. Doubly unfair to compare him to players that entered the league with a fraction of his expectations to begin with.