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The reported asking price is a 2nd Plus. The 2nd Round doesn't start until tomorrow.

I'm confused by the Titans trade on a number of levels. Arizona is giving Tennessee #3 and Hopkins and getting #11? Like what else is involved from Tennessee's end?

I mean one of the Top 4 Prospects. Do you have a Crystal Ball? You don't know who will or will not exceed expectations.

I'm going to lose it if we Draft a premier WR prospect in Round 1 and everyone is upset because they're not Hopkins.

Get off that. All Miller has said is Hopkins wants to be here and he'd love to see it. But if Beane determined the price was too great and/or prefers a long term cost controlled deal with a Rookie - it is what it is. This fatalist Hopkins or Nothing mentality is ridiculous. A 1st Round WR could turn out to be better for us than Hopkins would be. You don't know. It already has and it's embarrassing.

I never saw this as realistic. It just never made sense to me from a financial standpoint. He'd have to essentially agree to play for nothing or Beane would have to do very uncharacteristic things with the Cap that has never been his M.O. - all the while Arizona straight up giving him away. That being said, I think a lot of people are jumping the gun assuming it's a done deal to Baltimore. It's not dead yet.

You won't be ecstatic - that's not happening. We have too many needs to trade a 1st and a 3rd at WR. Especially when we already have a Top 5 WR on this team. Especially since the financials it would cost to make Hopkins work would mean we'd have to fill all other needs exclusively in the Draft. This isn't Fantasy Football or Madden. It's Flowers or Hopkins. It cannot and will not be both.

Christ man - get a hold of yourself. Embarrassing.

This has always been obvious. If the Bills take JSN, Flowers, Johnston, or Addison tonight (and I'm hoping those are the only one's they're looking at at 27) - they aren't trading for Hopkins. You don't spend a 1st on a WR when you already have Diggs and then bury them at #3 WR for multiple years. Especially with the holes we have on this team, the financials it would take for Hopkins, and the added Draft pick(s).

If the Ravens were to be considered out of it simply because they have OBJ and need to get him targets then that would mean we would have to be out of it because we have Diggs and he needs targets. I think the Ravens are out of it because they just had to give a giant bag to Lamar, just gave 15 million to OBJ, and the cryptic posts that people were reading into being Hopkins was actually just Lamar getting his deal.

Definitely not a friend congratulating another friend on their magazine shoot. It has to actually mean he's becoming a Buffalo Bill.

Gonna take a lot more than Hopkins wanting to be here and Beane being 1% interested.

I think he's just wishing. They're old College Teammates. Very likely just seeing the rumors and/or talking to him and hearing he wants to come here.

This thread is going to lose their minds if the Bills take a WR at 27. 27 for 34 is the trendy predicted trade proposal by fans and pundits as of late. But I still think it's going to cost more than just moving down 7 picks. Probably also a 4th or a 5th. Same thing that happens anytime something somewhat meaningful is said. Fans freak out. They start looking for any info and cling on to random Twitter accounts that say what they want to hear to gain followers.

Wow. A TBD Poster who's a Jack Campbell fan and thinks we should reach for him at 27. Shocking.

I think it's either Lamar got a deal done with Baltimore or somewhere else. Pacman (if he's to be believed) checked into it live with his "source" and then delivered the "news" about Buffalo and KC. So I don't think it's about Hopkins - but who knows what's true or not these days.

I imagine the Ravens talk stems from this:

Players on the last year of their contract don't fetch much. We absolutely wouldn't get a 2nd for Oliver and we'd be lucky to get a 3rd.

Yes. And that's normal. Do you see a rash of teams trading away players in the last year of their Rookie Deal? No. The reason for that is two fold: 1.) Teams aren't into trading for players that only have 1 year left on their deal unless they know the player is going to sign a long term deal with them. And the team trading them isn't likely to do it unless they know for sure they aren't going to re-sign them following the last year of the deal. 2.) When you Draft a player, you have them under a cost controlled Rookie deal for 4-5 seasons. You want to get at least that when you Draft a guy. Teams don't want to get 1 less year of that Rookie deal investment. Is it impossible? No. But it's not foolish or weird to lose a Free Agents and get "nothing in return". It happens league wide every single year. Beane has talked about wanting to re-sign Oliver after this season. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out. But I don't see him not at least getting the 5th year he signed him up for.

I get irked by posts like this. I don't give a crap what list Josh is or isn't on. I don't care what he's ranked by some pundit. We finally have a Franchise QB who's one of the best in the league. That's all that matters.

Absolute insanity to draft Josh Downs with Quentin Johnston and Jalin Hyatt.

He wasn't even the best Slot WR on the team last year. Khalil Shakir just had the McDermott Rookie Training Wheels on. And all one has to do is look at Deonte Harty's explosive playmaking ability and explosiveness in 2021, before he got lost for the year at the beginning of 2022, to know that this take is completely laughable. He was better than Isaiah McKenzie was last season. But Harty and Shakir? Nope. If the Bills brought Cole back, he'd be on the Practice Squad and only activated if there were an injury to Harty or Shakir.

You're missing the point. We'd have to use another Pick to fill his role. You can't just have Diggs, Hopkins, and Sherfield on the Outside. We'd need to get another solid #3. And we'd already be spending a pick or picks at WR on Hopkins. That's too much to put into WR with all the holes we need to fill, the draft compensation we'd already be giving up at WR for Hopkins, and with the money we'd be spending on Hopkins requiring us to fill those holes in the Draft. Trading away Davis just to have to spend more this season to replace him on top of what we're spending on Hopkins is pointless and counter productive when he's fine as the #3. He wouldn't be a part of a Hopkins trade. And if Davis is as replaceable as you say he is, why would Arizona want him and make it a sticking point? A 2nd may have more upside. Or he may take time. And why spend a 2nd on someone when we already have Diggs and Hopkins in the starting lineup? Especially when, contrary to posters on this thread would like to believe, we have a lot more to do to this roster than just create a Fantasy Football team at WR.

And some Bills fans think Davis is completely worthless and should be cut or traded after his promotion to #2 didn't go swimmingly in a season where he was dealing with injuries and was in his first year starting. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Davis was a very solid #3 WR. Solid enough that it earned him a promotion. It wasn't all the KC playoff game. He made many difficult toe tap catches before that game. Yes, last season didn't go as well as we had hoped at #2. But that doesn't mean he should be ran out of town. He should return to his role as #3 at least for this season, finding holes in the Defense with coverages rolling to Diggs and Hopkins. He's under an inexpensive mid round Rookie contract. If we had Diggs and Hopkins, it makes no sense to get rid of Davis and spend a 2nd Round Pick on another WR for that same #3 role on top of it. Especially with the amount of holes we have to fill at other positions, the need to fill those holes in the Draft after what it would cost financially for Hopkins, and the Draft compensation we'd already spending on WR to acquire Hopkins.