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Below is the complete list of players that we have under contract next season, by position. Players in italics have an out in their contract after this season: QB: Josh Allen RB: James Cook Nyheim Hines FB: Reggie Gilliam WR: Stefon Diggs Khalil Shakir Deonte Harty Justin Shorter Andy Isabella K.J. Hamler Tyrell Shavers Bryan Thompson TE: Dalton Kincaid Dawson Knox Zach Davidson Tre Mc'Kitty OL: Dion Dawkins Connor McGovern Mitch Morse O'Cyrus Torrence Spencer Brown - Ryan Bates Ryan Van Demark Tommy Doyle Alec Anderson Richard Gouraige Kevin Jarvis DE: Von Miller Greg Rousseau Kingsley Jonathan Kameron Cline DT: Ed Oliver LB: Matt Milano Terrel Bernard Dorian Williams Baylon Spector CB: Rasul Douglas Christian Benford Tre'Davious White Taron Johnson Kaiir Elam Siran Neal Ja'Marcus Ingram Kyron Brown S: Jordan Poyer Damar Hamlin Kendall Williamson ST: Tyler Bass Sam Martin Reid Ferguson We currently sit $41.4 million over the cap. I'm sure Beane has different restructure and cut plans in place already to get us under. But there is a lot of work to be done. Though it is good to see so much of our core in place. EDIT: Here's the list of guys who will be Free Agents, by position (Practice Squad players not included) - QB: Kyle Allen RB: Damien Harris Latavius Murray Ty Johnson WR: Gabe Davis Trent Sherfield TE: Quintin Morris (ERFA) OL: David Edwards DE: Leonard Floyd A.J. Epenesa Shaq Lawson DT: Daquan Jones Jordan Phillips Linval Joseph Tim Settle Poona Ford LB: Tyrel Dodson Tyler Matakevitch CB: Dane Jackson Cam Lewis S: Micah Hyde Taylor Rapp

If you say that you knew Justin Jefferson was going to become the type of player he became, be as good as he was that quickly Pre-Draft, and be a better option than Stefon Diggs immediately - you're lying. All draft prospects, I don't care who they are, are a projection. Some of the most talented bust. Some of the lower ranked prospects become HOF'ers. They're all a crap chute until they produce. Stefon Diggs was a sure thing. Only through hindsight can anyone question going with Stefon Diggs over the 5th WR left on the board in the Draft. Even if you or Beane liked JJ Pre-Draft, there was no way to tell if he'd be the WR left on the board at that point.

We had the ability and the money to get one of the top 5 WR's in the NFL in Diggs and we took the sure thing over the Draft Pick that year. It just so happened, Jefferson became one of those himself. But at the time, he was the 5th WR taken that year. So take a sure fire thing or take the 5th WR off the board? It's a no brainer. Only through hindsight can it be questioned. As for Funchess and Benjamin, he was just an Assistant. He didn't make those picks. And with Funchess, he wasn't even so much as the Assistant GM at that point. We cannot afford a serious difference maker at WR via FA or Trade. So you might want to get over this stretch of an idea that he can't Draft a WR and/or hope for the best. Davante Adams is an absolute pipe dream. Again, he has never picked a WR before Round 4 - so the data isn't there to say he can't do it. And ultimately, the Draft is a crap chute anyways.

He said he wasn't confident they'd be able to land the kind of difference maker they wanted there and were confident that Diggs was the better option. No one knew Justin Jefferson was going to become Justin Jefferson. If they did, he wouldn't have lasted as long as they did. Seriously putting words in his mouth there.

He's on record saying he's horrible at drafting WR's? Really? When did he say this? I call BS. Considering he's never taken one before Round 4 - how can you even judge that? And honestly, the performances of guys like Gabe Davis (Round 4), Khalil Shakir (Round 5), Ray-Ray McCloud (Round 6 - albeit elsewhere) and Isaiah Hodgins (Round 6 - albeit elsewhere), have exceeded their Draft positions. Success past Round 3 at WR is very few and far between. We wait to see what will come of Justin Shorter (Round 5), another late round pick. The only ones you can say were a real miss was Marquez Stevenson (6th Round Pick) and Austin Proehl (7th Round Pick). Again, it's not expected a 6th or 7th Round Pick will amount to much.

True, that it's a lot to expect a Round 1 skill player to be the guy in Year 1. But we do have to keep in mind that Kincaid won't be a Rookie next season. He has had a solid Rookie season and I think the expectation from the team is that he'll take another step next season - as Cook, Bernard, and Shakir did. I agree, as you said, we will not be able to swing a Tee Higgins given our situation. But with the hopeful steps forward with Kincaid in Year 2 and Shakir in Year 3, along with Diggs, another solid roleplayer in Round 1 (and a mid round flyer), and a good deal on a solid WR left at the end of musical chairs or a more reliable projection player than we've gotten this season with similar players - and we should be in a better position. We also have 9 picks this year. So with a package of mid round picks and/or a pick next year, although we may be low in Round 1, we may be able to move up.

I mean, he really doesn't have much of a choice but to invest in the Line. Von Miller and Greg Rousseau are the only DE's we have under contract for next year. And Ed Oliver is literally the only DT we have for 2024. I think we will retain one of Floyd or Epenesa. I think as to whom really boils down to if Miller shows some growth in the last games (if we make the playoffs) or not and/or if they have faith he'll be better next season. He'll be here regardless (unless he is charged and placed on the exempt list) as he's more expensive to lose than keep. And we can't afford to take on more cap hits. If he shows something after being sit or they have faith for next season, they may opt for the more inexpensive route in Epenesa. A guy who can be the heavy in a rotational role or possibly start if they feel Miller would be better suited rotationally. If they believe Miller is shot, then I think you need to bring back Floyd at all costs. As Epenesa is good in rotation, but who knows if he can be as good as he has been this year as an every down starter. And if they feel Miller's shot and won't provide much in rotation, we can't gamble that Epenesa can't handle the starting gig on top of it. I also believe we'll be trying hard to retain Daquan Jones. A healthy Oliver/Jones combo has been solid for us and I think they'd like to keep it. I believe Floyd or Epenesa and Jones are our primary focus going into the Offseason. Everything else will need to be filled with smart bargains and Draft picks. I trust in Beane to find the space to make it work as he did this year. 41.5m over is daunting. But he's the type of GM who goes over only to the extent of which he knows ahead of time that he can free up with certain moves. And I'm sure he knows what he's going to do to get us the space to be able to re-sign two of those guys.

I think it's going to be one of those situations where when the season ends they say he had been dealing with an injury for a good portion of the year. Right now, they want to say he's fine so that people don't adjust the heavy protection that goes his way.

I don't think they felt he needed to learn from any vet how to play the game. He just needed to take his lumps, get used to the speed of the game, and get comfortable. And that was only going to come from playing. There's very few QB's who would have been able to show him anything new in terms of how he plays the position.

It's possible if he continues to be as solid as he is now the rest of the way, that the playbook next season could see him targeted a lot more than he is now. If that happens, he could be 2nd in targets if they game plan him to be so. But he'll always be a Slot WR. I don't think he has the size to play on the Outside. When people speak of WR2, they generally speak of the the secondary target on the boundary. That won't be Shakir and it likely won't be Davis, either. It will be most likely a Draft Pick, as our cap situation won't be able to provide us any sort of spectacular 2nd option on the Outside like a Higgins.

New year, same realism. But hey, we did trade for Evans, Hopkins, and Henry, signed Ingram and Houston after Floyd, and activated Kirksey Week 1 - so maybe I should listen to you more 😛 Agreed on all. If we hadn't gone on the winning streak we have and missed the playoffs, I could have seen a move up into the Top 10 for Odunze. But after we hopefully win on Sunday, that's probably too far to move up to - even with our extra picks.

Nope. He's going to be paid ridiculous WR1 money from someone to be their WR1. We're 41.4m over the cap. And while Beane surely has plans in place to make moves to get us under the cap (in conjunction with the expected rise in cap in 2024), we still have a lot of holes that will need to be filled. Like the fact that Von and Rousseau are the only DE's we have under contract next season and Oliver is the only DT under contract. And that's just part of it. We simply cannot afford to pay extravagantly for someone like Higgins with the other things we have to do. Expect a trade up in Round 1 for a WR to pair with Diggs, Kincaid, and Shakir. Hopefully they're a difference maker that catches on quick.

It's a Right Tibial Plateau Fracture. And from the video, a pretty gnarly one at that. It takes 4 months to get back to walking and moving normally, let alone playing NFL football at a high level. He sustained the injury 10/8. Whoops - thanks for the correction.

There really is no hope for this season. Medically and logically, it's WAY too soon and McDermott has said time and again, it doesn't look good. Holding out hope because he's said that instead of saying "no" is the very definition of Lloyd from Dumb and Dumber - "so you're saying there's a chance...."

You can't decline a delay of game penalty? That cost us 30 yards. That's ridiculous.

O-Line just getting bullied again. No issue with the Cowboys D-Line. But the Chargers and the Patriots? Apparently unstoppable.

Yeah, no surprise here. It was discussed in the Elam thread and it became fairly obvious he was the odd man out for Daquan. This late in the season, he should easily be brought back to the PS. And if not, Van Demark is RT2 anyways, Bates can play OT in a pinch, and we still have Richard Gouraige on the PS.

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Fair point on Lewis. But Johnson wouldn't work. We'd have to find another roster spot for Fournette after his 2nd elevation. No way we'd roll with just Cook and Murray alone at RB.

Any of those players would need to be replaced on the roster. Johnson for Fournette. Hyde or Hamlin for another Safety like Norwood from the PS - as we'll want to carry more than just 3 true Safeties. I don't see us carrying just 3 RB's or just 3 Safeties and replacing that open spot with a DT.

Yes, Ryan Van Demark is RT2 and Ryan Bates can play across the line. Both players have been active all season. And in the event that Ifedi can't be reclaimed to the Practice Squad, we also have Richard Gouraige there. So yeah, I think Ifedi's the likely choice.

I do too. We have 7 CB's which seems 1-2 too many on aberage. But the bottom of the depth chart in Neal and Lewis are too valuable on Special Teams. And Neal is the only other backup Nickel. So I don't really see either of them being cut. We have 10 OL, which is probably on average 1 too many. And Ifedi has been inactive every game and could probably be snuck on the PS at this point. So I think he's the most likely candidate. I'd have listed Baylon Spector, but we have 5 LB's on the roster and that's kind of the minimum amount you need already.

Looking at the roster, it would be an OL, DE, or CB. Most likely either Germain Ifedi, Alec Anderson, Kingsley Jonathan, or Cam Lewis. But it's hard to see a number of those players being released. Ifedi maybe?

It's obvious that you would do that. But there's no chance McDermott does. He's not going to bench a guy he's been using extensively and distribute his reps across the board elsewhere for a guy that he only activated because another player was injured. Fournette got a total of 10 snaps and touched the ball only 5 times for 20 yards total. With Johnson back in the lineup, he'd get even less reps as the 4th RB - if they were to do that. His performance on Sunday didn't force anyone's hand. And a 4th RB would get so little usage, it's not worth it. You may feel he's worthy of changing around the offensive personnel and leaving us with 4 total WR's. But I reiterate, there's practically a zero chance McDermott would do what you would here. There's a MUCH better chance he'd sit Johnson or Murray for Fournette. But I don't think that's very likely either. If you're a Fournette fan, you have to hope Johnson's shoulder sidelines him another week. Otherwise, he's not getting activated this week.

As it stands, the 3rd most used RB on a given week is given extremely low snap counts. vs. The Chargers - James Cook had 41 snaps, Leonard Fournette had 10 snaps, and Latavius Murray had 7 snaps. A 4th RB? Maybe a couple snaps? Meanwhile, Trent Sherfield was used (albeit primarily as a blocker) in formations at WR in 33 snaps. Double the amount of snaps RB's 2 and 3 combined got. There is ZERO chance they'd utilize a 4th RB and short themselves to 4 WR's.