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Yeah, Comeback Player of the Year goes to players who return from a serious injury. Guys who had a down year and then a massive year aren't going to take that award. It will go to someone like Odell Beckham Jr, Matt Stafford, Breece Hall, or Tua Tagovailoa. And honestly, given the severity of the injury, even if Damar Hamlin finishes the season in a reserve role - I could see the award going to him. But, yeah, no way does it go to Mac Jones for improving his performance.

Like I said, he's not available for Trade this Offseason. It's just speculated wishing and hoping from other fanbases: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/06/17/mike-evans-bucs-working-toward-third-contract/

It's pretty clear to me that McDermott made a conscious decision to throw Diggs under the bus and someone above him, whether it was Beane or Pegula, put him in his place over it. McDermott ALWAYS goes out of his way to downplay or flat out lie about things to the press to avoid any sort of distraction. It's his M.O. But this time, he went out of character and deliberately made things a public mess. Then the next day, he completely contradicts himself and is reading a carefully prepared statement off of a piece of paper - surely carefully constructed by multiple people and/or the PR Department. The whole thing was a mess of McDermott's own creation. Diggs did what he did. But McDermott could have done what he always does and it would have been a minor blip in the media.

True. Thanks for catching and the clarification. I was wondering how a DIII player who barely touched the field got a Combine invite. Still wild to me that given his resume, he's gotten multiple shots in the NFL just based simply on size, measurements, and athletic ability. Definitely a Cinderella story if he ever amounts to something in the league.

The idea that players are more about Rings and less about Money is a romantic fan driven idea. Not saying it never happens. But that generally only happens if the contender options are fairly close in offer. If the Titans or the Pats are going to overpay and the Bills and Chiefs are only looking to pay him average to below average money with incentives - best believe he'll sign with the Titans or the Pats. He's probably waiting and hoping a better team sees he's serious about taking one of their offers and matches or comes close to it. But if no one does, he'll sign with one of them. And I don't see Brandon Beane getting into a bidding war for anyone at this point. He's a firm, "here's our offer, take it or leave it" kind of GM. Floyd got done because he came back to our offer. If Hopkins were to sign here, it will be the same thing. But given that he took those visits, I don't see that as likely. And after everything that happened this week with Diggs, I see it as even less likely. It would send the wrong message to Diggs and the Media if we were to bring Hopkins in now.

I don't think it's just leveraging though. He doesn't need to fly in and meet with teams for his agent to find out where they are financially in an offer. He's visiting in person to see if he likes being there and could possibly make it work. Odds are because they're offering the most. Especially seeing the full court press that Tennessee put on from his IG story. One thing I'm fairly certain of is that if what we were offering (if there were an offer, at all) were enough to "close the gap", he wouldn't be visiting with those teams in person. And I don't see Beane upping his offer based on what they're offering. I imagine it's more than likely a Leonard Floyd situation. If he wants to come back to our offer on the table - great. If not, oh well.

He wants the best offer. If it were about simply playing with Josh or Mahomes, he wouldn't be taking visits with teams like Tennessee and New England. He wants to find his best money offers and leverage them. Maybe he'd take less than what a lesser team is offering to play in Buffalo or KC, but if one of those teams wants to overpay in their offer (which they'd have to if they want to land him on their sorry @ss teams) - the discount will probably still be more than the Bills or Chiefs are willing to offer at this point in the Offseason.

My issue with that statement is that people can have their own personal concerns about that. But Beane signed him and made him a priority. What posters want is for him to be, at most, the 4th technical WR on the depth chart and the 5th or 6th option in the passing game after Diggs, Hopkins (who fans look at as a "need" and not a luxury), Davis, Kincaid, and Knox. Beane didn't sign him to a 2 year contract worth 10 million to turn around and go out and spend a boatload more to get another guy because he doesn't see him as a "sure thing". He'll already surely be behind Diggs, Kincaid, and Davis on players split out Wide. I don't think he's looking to use him even less than that with the investment he made in him. Which is why I think Beane has taken a stance of "If he wants to come here cheap, sure. Otherwise, I don't really need him" with Hopkins.

Oh man - you've gone and done it now. You've given sound reasoning as to why Beane targeted him in Wave 1 of Free Agency, outbid others to get him, and why he more than likely feels comfortable with what he's done with the Pass Catching core this offseason already. The "he's an unknown" and "he's never done anything in his career" crowd around here that want to dismiss him and bury him on the depth chart at every chance they get aren't going to like that.

I keep seeing people say "If Beane wanted" as if that's all it takes. Just offering a fair market value probably isn't getting it done unless he's offering the highest amount. Hopkins wants money. All that media noise before he got released was all fine and good. But it's pretty clear since hiring an agent, it's all about getting the most money he can.

Wild this guy keeps getting opportunities based entirely on measurables and Combine performance. I don't know how he even got invited to the Combine with his collegiate resume: https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/transactions/packers-give-chance-to-former-d-iii-player-with-meager-history

I would reserve "trash" for people who are actual criminals and menaces to society. Not for players who act out about issues with coaching. Even then, I wouldn't be going around calling people literal "trash". That's pretty damn hateful. And really unnecessary in this situation. Chill out.

What is your major malfunction? He skipped a Day of Minicamp in June and Voluntary workouts and you're calling him "trash" in threads and taking every opportunity to take personal shots at the guy. Take a friggin' breather, man.

I posted last night in the Diggs thread that if 24/7 Sports and Social Media were a thing in the 90's - this would look like nothing in comparison.

He's actually an intriguing prospect and it's unfortunate to see him be put on IR. I figured him to be good insurance in the event they decided to try and sneak Quintin Morris on the Practice Squad and couldn't. He's a 6'7" Tight End that Minnesota drafted in the 5th Round in 2021 and moved on from after only one season. We brought him in after they released him and has been a Practice Squad, Futures guy since September of last year.

Oh, so now he excused him from practice yesterday? Hilarious. Sounds like Beane or Pegula put McDermott in his place for what he said yesterday and told him "you better fix it".

Judging from yesterday's posts, there's probably a lot of people upset he showed up today bc they loved being justified in being able to talk trash about Diggs.

I love the older posters who like to compare situations like these to experiences in their own jobs, as if it's even REMOTELY applicable.

Only Diggs himself or the people running the Bills IG account would know if he blocked them. There's no way for anyone else to know.

If 24/7 Sports and Social Media were a thing back in "The Bickering Bills" days - this would look like nothing in comparison.

I don't think it has anything to do with Josh, beyond him not going against Dorsey's game plan when things weren't working in the Cinci game. Ultimately, I think it's between him and McDermott and maybe Dorsey. I think McDermott probably strong handed Diggs when he arrived because of his actions and it re-opened old wounds and he peaced out for the day. The thing that really has me thinking it's a McDermott thing is that he consistently lies to the press or downplays things to specifically not cause distractions. He could have easily said that Diggs arrived but then was excused for the rest of the day for personal reasons. He specifically chose to throw him under the bus. That's very out of character for McDermott and speaks to a personal issue to me.

It would do the opposite. It would send a message that we're worried about Diggs and may be looking to eat the dead cap and move on. Digg's problem isn't that the team isn't doing enough to win. It's presumably to do with the coaching. Specifically, game planning away from him in both the KC Championship Game and the Cinci Divisional playoff exits. If anything, the problems with Diggs right now makes Hopkins even more unlikely. It would send the wrong message to Diggs and the media. And if they're feeling a headache from 1 Top WR right now, they may not want to take on another who has his own set of Diva behavior (specifically when it comes to practice habits). Also, if Diggs is worried about his targets, bringing in Hopkins on top of everything else would exacerbate that. So, yeah, signing Hopkins does nothing for the situation we're in that would help. It would do the opposite. Which is probably another reason why we haven't pursued him with any urgency.

Do you think it's also unacceptable how the Cincinnati game went? That even after it became clear what we were doing Offensively wasn't working, that the coaches and Josh refused to change anything and just let the trouncing continue and snowball? I think looking at it in a vacuum and just saying Stefon was wrong and blaming it all on him is the wrong way of looking at it. He could have handled it better. But in my opinion, the team could have handled both what led up to it better and could be handling this better now.

I think this could be what it's all about. McDermott wants him to apologize for what he did and he feels that the reason behind his actions were justified. And honestly, I agree with him. Ultimately, I think both were right. Stefon could have handled it better. But he wasn't wrong in his frustration. In both Playoff exits in back to back years, the game plan was use Diggs as a Decoy. And in the Cinci game in particular, it clearly wasn't working and both Allen and Dorsey refused to change the game plan when it wasn't working. Was it unacceptable how he acted? Yes. But was it also unacceptable that we were getting absolutely TROUNCED by Cinci with the game plan we had and then didn't make changes. Absolutely!

Ultimately, whether it was Diggs who attacked McDermott or McDermott who attacked Diggs leading to his walkout - to me it seems pretty clear that the issue is with coaching and McDermott isn't here for it. I was just watching NFL Live and Ryan Clark said "whatever happened to good ole' fashioned lying?". That thought has stuck with me. McDermott time and again lies to the press. He does whatever it takes to downplay things and avoid distraction. But this time, he chose to do the opposite. His doing so even led to his agent publicly stating confusion as to why he said it the way he did. To me, it's clear. He made a choice to throw Stef under the bus for whatever reason. So there's a disconnect between Stef and McD right now. And again, on one hand I understand wanting control of your team and for your players to fall in line. On the other, Stef reported and was ready to roll. Why be heavy handed in a delicate situation if you can avoid it?