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Keon Coleman is good at football. Nothing more to it… and a great situation for us

Was at the game… the Seahawks fan sitting next to me said “Man number zero is Killing us!”. Keon definitely earned his game ball today

Huh wut? The vast majority of the Seattle skyline has been developed in the past ~15-20 years. It’s probably the fastest growing large city in the US since 1996…

I don’t think Portland was ever in the mix. Phil Knight is the only person in the state who can afford an NFL team, and he’s not gonna be around for long (and he’s pretty focused on the Ducks…) There may of course be some out of state owners, but there’s no obvious stadium solution here. There is an ownership group trying to lure an MLB team, but they are on roughly plan Z as the city has battled every sensible location. And….its just not that big a sports town. The Blazers draw ok and soccer is popular, but similar size metros like St Louis, San Diego, San Antonio, and Austin have …. a lot more potential NFL ticket buyers.

I’ll be there solo. Have a plane ticket from PDX Sunday morning, but haven’t bought a game ticket yet. If anyone has an extra DM me!

NBC does the production for Thursday Night Football. The talent and branding is managed by Amazon, but the folks on the cameras and in the trucks are the same folks that do SNF. And the NFL is very closely aligned with their broadcast partners - a lot of "innovation" you see on all the partners is because of the NFL pushing for new fan engagement; they want things like alternative broadcasts, AI enhancements, etc.

I think Josh hurt his left shoulder last week on the terrible trick play. I think it was 2021 when he hurt his left shoulder. The Bills made no big deal out of it, but one of the TV pundits (maybe Orlovsky?) made a point that non-throwing shoulder injury makes a QB sail balls high, and takes 4 weeks to heal. He was sailing them today, and that stretch in ‘21. 4 weeks puts Josh back to normal for the Seahawks game on 10/27.

I expected Samuel to be a huge part of the offense when we signed him - he played on some really bad teams and produced, with JA he should be really good. But the turf toe has me not expecting much in the first month or so - hopefully it’s not a lingering thing. Shakir and Kincaid are gonna eat tomorrow; Samuel will have a couple of big 3rd down conversions but that’s about it.

This seems to come up every time there is an exclusive streaming game…. but TBH it’s cheaper in 2024 to watch all NFL games than it was 20 years ago. Somehow cable companies/ESPN have tricked people into thinking MNF was “free”…. Yes they now simulcast some games on ABC, but MNF has been on ESPN for over 20 years. I paid ~$120/month for cable the last time I had it (2006). There was usually some lock-in contract plus a ~$10/mo “rental” for a set-top-box (that cost the cable co about $30 total). DTV was similar with a much higher equipment cost; you might get a Sunday Ticket discount but the ASP was probably $200 for the season (so $50/mo), so for the 4 core months of NFL you are paying ~$170/month to see all NFL games. Today you need: 1) An antenna for 4 Sunday games 2) Sunday ticket $87.25/mo ($349 was the payment in May) 3) A service with ESPN - Sling has 4 months for $50/mo prepaid 4) Peacock for $7.99/mo (the Brazil game and maybe a playoff game like last year?) 5) Prime Video for $8.99/mo for Thursday Night Football 6) one month of Netflix for the Christmas games at $6.99 (so call it ~$2/mo) Thats a total of $161.25/mo over 4 months for every NFL game in 2024. (Somewhat ignorning playoffs, because they are mostly broadcast). So it’s cheaper than the $170/month 20 years ago. The picture gets even better if you are local to your team; you can drop Sunday Ticket, and if you are willing to take your chances on an ABC simulcast, you’ll see all games for $19/month (streaming exclusives are also shown OTA to local markets). Back then you needed guaranteed sellouts to see all your teams games on TV. Now, it’s certainly not easier tracking all these subscriptions and apps, and I am assuming your internet connection _is_ a utility, which is true for most households. But there is less money coming out of your pocket today than there has ever been since all games have been available. The NFL is getting more money by 1) cutting out the middle-man cable/satellite company, and 2) getting way higher rights deals fueled by higher advertising rates on national broadcasts. It won’t last forever as the broadcasters are still riding the fumes of the cable industry, but that will dry up and streaming will get more expensive; enjoy it while you can!

Mods, please shut this thread down or move to PPP.

I'm not sure "flaw" is the right term. The cap is a percentage of league revenue that is paid to the players; everything works backwards from that. So as long as they pay the player on IR, it needs to count. Now maybe there could be a mechanism to spread the cap hit out for an IR'ed player to not ruin a season, but it all needs to balance out to the CBA's specific percentage of revenue.

Here's the direct link: https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/cheat-motion-is-now-officially-cheating

Do you really though….

So you don't watch Monday Night Football?

The product you bought is called “Sunday Ticket”, and the poster you are responding to is complaining about Thursday night games. It’s literally right there in the title; the subscription is for games on Sunday. You may think of that title as some sort of marketing term, but the NFL absolutely does not think that entitles subscribers to games on Thursday, or Monday, or even Wednesday (when Christmas falls this year…)

This is a weird thread. We are running back most of the same team who won 6 of their last 7 games, with the only L by 3 points against the repeat SB champs. We lose an aging C and a WR who was ineffective in those games; everyone else on offense moves one year closer to their prime. On defense, we lose 3 DBs who were too slow to compete; Douglass and Benford are the best starting CBs we’ve had over the past 2 years. We get Milano back. Floyd is the only loss, and he wasn’t a game-changer. Why would anyone expect a different performance than the back third of last season?

Only a handful though. But the NFL has been on paid channels for 17 years, and the customer terms are _way_ worse (cable costing >$100/mo, 2-year contracts, etc). Cable companies are just way better than broadcasters at tricking consumers into thinking pay TV is a utility.

So you haven’t watched Monday Night Football since 2005? (It switched to ESPN in 2006)

I’ll give you tackle numbers not being the important thing, but what I’m trying to say is the “dominant” part of his career is not long enough for HoF. It’s why we don’t talk about JA and HoF yet - everyone knows he has a long, long way to go to prove that. In 20 years, people will still talk about Ray Lewis and LT. Nobody outside SF is going to remember Willis - he is Hall of Very Good material.

Willis played 7.5 seasons and only had >100 tackles in 4 of them. How on earth is he a definite HoF other than “I’ve heard of him”?

Until tonight I was on team “keep McD”. He’s toast, what a terrible coach.

Streaming delay is not related to your home internet in any meaningful way. It comes down to the streaming tech the provider uses, how delayed their initial feed is, and how they configure their streams. See https://thestreamable.com/news/fox-sports-app-removed-nearly-entire-streaming-delay-vs-ota-for-super-bowl-lvii for some good comparisons. Fox Sports puts a ton of engineering into this; the aggregators (Fubo, YouTubeTV, etc) just let it play on their regular (read: lowest cost) linear streaming system, just like cable and OTA do.

During the Chiefs game, Romo announced he is playing in the Pebble Beach Pro-Am this weekend, so no surprise he’s skipping the pro bowl.

I think the Bills knew that the Pats WR/QB suck, and told Elam to watch from the booth to help learn the game. It’s a common tactic in hockey for a rook, but in the NFL you don’t normally get these slam-dunk wins.