Billz4ever

Hines is only a kick returner because Dorsey doesn't seem to have a clue how to use a pass catching RB in the offense. Same with Cook. Why did we trade for Hines or draft a back like Cook in the first place then?

Who else do you trust to return kicks that doesn't scare the s*** out of you?

We've got a pretty brutal schedule next season, especially on the road. We're going to find out pretty quick what this team is made of. With what appears to be them making as few changes as possible, 13 wins next year may be a pipedream. Just making the postseason could be a struggle. Home: Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Broncos, Raiders, Cowboys, Giants, Buccaneers, Jaguars Away: Chiefs, Chargers, Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Eagles, Bengals, Commanders

Yep, outcoached is every aspect. So, we stay with all the same coaches. What changes are they going to make from this embarrassment to when we play Cincy next season? It's clear Frazier didn't do anything different from the 1st quarter of the Monday night game. Is this like where you discipline your kid and tell them they made poor decisions and they promise to make better decisions in the future? Frazier is one of the most inflexible coaches I've ever seen. Even when what he's doing clearly isn't working, he's slow to change things up.

This was Groot's 2nd season and we've seen some good improvement from him. Willing to give him more time. Disagree on Ed completely. This was his 4th season and he has totally underperformed his draft position at the 9th overall pick. I'm hoping we can trade him.

True, Daq being out hurt and of course Von, but that still leaves us with Groot, Ed, Shaq, Boog, and AJE (not mentioning Settle or Phillips since we didn't draft them and Phillips was playing with 1 arm). That's a whole lot of first and 2nd round picks right there that got pushed up and down the football field by a backup O-Line. But I certainly agree with you they didn't look like the same team. Oh, how I dream of last year's team with a Von Miller on it and the possibilities if :13 seconds doesn't happen.

So far, the vibes I'm getting are they don't see many big issues and are content with running it back. Getting rid of the safeties coach and possibly Kromer isn't any meaningful change. We still have to see what happens in the draft, but with what I've seen and heard so far, next season scares the s*** out of me. Yes, we sacrifice the guy coaching the position where we were missing one all-pro almost all season and the other all-pro was playing hurt all year. Make it make sense.

I think we will get more bang for the buck with Hines than Singletary given that Hines can return kicks. It would be nice to keep all 3, but don't know if that happens. The first question is what happens if we don't sign Motor and either Cook or Hines gets hurt. Are they going to sign a cheap FA? Draft a RB? The second is why did we bother to trade for Hines or draft a back like Cook if they are never going to get used in the offense like they should be? Earth to Dorsey.

Disagree. We were facing a team with 3/5 of the starting O-line out and we got manhandled. A D-Line should be licking their chops to know they're facing an offense in that kind of situation. The offense struggling was no big surprise. We've seen this offense do this since the 2nd half of the Packers game. When Diggs is our only real threat at receiver and Josh can't get him the ball, that's what's going to happen. You're saying the offense should've been able to win a shootout with them, even though it's obvious their offense has more legit weapons, and our defense had no answer.

Saffold got worse as the season went on. When he said they were out of gas, I believe he was talking about himself. An O-line is like dominos. If one guy is struggling, it's going to impact the rest of the line because they have to compensate for the weak spot. He was just getting abused later in the season and in the Cincy game, was made to look absolutely foolish to the point I was embarrassed for him. He said he wants to stay in Buffalo. Unless it's as a backup at the vet min, hard pass. He didn't come close to earning the $6 million we paid him to come here.

Beane and McD right now...

I can't believe he was even on our roster.

And our defense couldn't stop anything. The final score wasn't indicative of how bad we got our butts whipped. Cincy hangs 40 on us easy if they don't let off the gas. They knew we couldn't score, so they had no reason to push hard in the second half once they went up 27-10.

Yeah, just like Beane said anyday now Gabe is going to turn into this great WR2 he was supposed to be this season. I've defended Beane, but more and more lately it seems like he just another one of those guys that talks a good game, but really has no clue what he's talking about.

Z.E.R.O. accountability. N.O.N.E.

So the safeties coach is the sacrificial lamb for this season when one our safeties has been out almost all season and the other has been battling injuries all season? Hardly the answer for this team's defensive coaching woes.

Last year was different. Our offense was on fire and Josh was playing like a man possessed. Neither NE or the Chiefs could stop us. That game is much different than this year's.

I'm going to call it the "out of gas" game since that was the prominent excuse I heard for it, even by players.

Still blows my mind. They could've literally gone up and bearhugged the receivers at the line on the first play, taken the 5-yard penalty and left them with 1 play that would've probably had to been some gadget play to pick up 35 yards.

Offensively, we were on fire that postseason. Josh was playing like a man possessed and we had our ticket punched to the AFCCG until some coaches that are supposed to be NFL-level defensive minded coaches couldn't figure out how to burn :13 second off the clock without allowing the other team to go 40 yards.

Yep, I actually felt relieved after Sunday. No heartbreaking plays at the end that snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

What? LMAO, we basically had our ticket punched to the AFCCG in :13 seconds and it was ripped away at the last second because of stupidity. We simply got our butts whipped against Cincy.

If you happened to listen to Beane's and McD's pressers, the takeaway for me regarding Dorsey was that his job is safe. That's just my opinion based on what they said, but that's the feeling I got from both.

13 seconds waaaay worse. A high school coach could've burnt 13 seconds without them scoring.

I'll even come up from Florida to help him pack. I honestly don't think they are going to talk to anyone. All indications I've seen are that Dorsey's job is safe for at least another year. We might make a move with DC, but not likely with the OC.