UKBillFan

20 years from now? As in, Josh playing until he's 48?

The trouble is, with Pegula's track record elsewhere, he'd probably hire a violinist to replace him.

The latest I read is it was a graphics error and there was no flag. I don't think anyone in the stadium has come out and said they saw a flag on the field after that play.

It just feels like, even if Kincaid had made that catch, or the fourth down had been given to Josh, the refs would have found another way to screw the Bills over. It was one of those nights. The die was cast. As was the winner. Is that fair? Maybe, maybe not.

Again, I disagree. He was great on Sunday. He was not Superman. He was Superman in the 13 second game, but the Bills cannot expect him to be Superman just to win the game. Others have to take responsibility.

Yes, folded or choked is too much. He did neither. But he did come out tight, as you say - it only lasted consistently through the first drive, but did have an impact on the game. This is another issue where we're saying the same thing before, as I'm sure a sports therapist has been mentioned previously when it comes to Josh. Though that throw at the end... if Kincaid had caught that, as he should have done, it would have been one for the ages.

Because it's the same old story. Think it was Einstein who said insanity was doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Albert, meet Brandon.

Yes, but this is part of the issue. The Bills are pretty good picking players in the lower rounds, but poor from the top, Josh aside.

I think that's melodramatic. Especially as this fan base cannot wait to jump on his back if he lowers his in-game play from Superman. If the Bills go through the same cycle over the next two to three years with the same result, then I think fans will be sympathetic with him if he pushes to move elsewhere.

I think, whilst Josh continues making explosive plays, people will continue watching the Bills. And, as said, if it involves the Chiefs there will be a degree of hate watching.

It'd be ironic if they did start using chips in balls after this - another rule change after the Bills lose to the Chiefs in the post season.

I'd rephrase that. I think Josh was great on Sunday. But he wasn't Superman, which he sometimes can be. And yet again the Bills needed him to be Superman because of what they have built around him. In fairness, would we be saying he was if Kincaid had made that catch?

If Mahomes was facing the Chiefs defense I’m not sure if he would have managed it as a Bills player. He would have made the play - just like Josh did - but someone else would have mucked up.

It definitely wasn't the only reason - but it played a key part.

Shame they didn't turn up like every other defense against the Chiefs this season. All but one kept them to a score in regulation which would have seen the Bills win with 29 on Sunday. And that one was the Panthers. I understand what you're saying about situation football but I'm not going to accept the defense was good enough throughout the game. It wasn't and it cost us.

That's what I was thinking. Are we taking at risk of taking him for granted as he was clearly the Bills best player on the night?

The league and CBS were happy as soon as the Chiefs beat the Texans. Whether it was the Ravens or the Bills at Arrowhead, it was going to rate well. Sorry, but no way would Texans at Bills have pulled in that many viewers.

Everyone’s making something of 4th and 1 but it wasn’t the only call. That punt return with two holds and a block in the back - nothing. Elam getting called on a face mask but the Chiefs do the same to Josh and Cook - nothing. The constant short spotting - I’ve never heard any commentator, let alone someone as experienced as Nantz, call a first down and have to take it back as much as he did Sunday. The Worthy catch - just give it to ‘em. Hamlin taunting when it was Kelce. When even Chiefs fans are saying it’s too much…

Perhaps it says something that one guy not mentioned so far, as far as I can tell, is… Josh Allen.

I think Beane is more interested in those at the top of the draft, and relies more on scouting for the lower picks. Maybe I'm just reading too much into it as the top picks seem so hit and miss yet those lower down the draft have a better overall success rate.

Not really. Though it did come out that Josh said he wanted Coleman; found a link to CBS. Saying that, it didn't specify when he felt the Bills should draft him. Nor did it say whether the Bills gave him two or three names and asked him to pick from them. Future drafts have to be on scouting above all else now. There's a reason why the lower round picks have more impact than higher, and that's because he Bills are picking more on scouting reports than the front office have vested interest and entrenched opinions.

IF you're right I do think they need to trust their scouting ahead of Josh now. Kincaid and Coleman are looking like busts - being a franchise, possible HoF, QB does not necessarily mean he's someone who can make personnel decisions. Though, in fairness, I doubt whether Josh would make any calls on defense and that's where the Bills issues really lie. I do believe Josh is the only one keeping McDermott in place right now. If he went to Pegula and said "fire or I'll ask for a trade" then he'd be gone. But that's the same with most franchise QBs. Taylor, for example, is still in place due to Burrow.

Regarding Josh having problems identifying pressure and adjusting pressure... what's Mahomes weakness? Because, going off the regular season and the Divisional game against the Texans, it seems like the Chiefs offense can be exposed. And yet, come play off time against the Bills, they can just run up any score they need.

Sorry but they can do in key situations. Sunday was close because of Josh. Not because of McD's defense, which managed to allow the Chiefs to score more points that in any other game this season.

Josh executed despite making an error. Kincaid didn't. There's the difference. In comparison how many players and positions came through for Mahomes? Their receivers, their special teams, their defense at the end, their coaching? It was only because of Josh that the Bills were in the game to start with. It certainly had very little to do with the receivers (Hollins maybe aside), defense, special teams or coaching on the Bills side.