JohnNord

If people at One Bills Drive read this forum, Sean McDermott would have been weeks ago and the Bills would be looking into trading multiple 1st round draft picks to trade for Brian Daboll as HC 😂 Only way they this forum is for entertainment purposes or to get a gauge on what fans might be saying about the team.

The big question marks for me were the starting positiona that the Bills elected not to upgrade and instead filled with incumbents. I was most concerned with Terrell Bernard and Spencer Brown to be able to take a step forward. I was least concerned about Gabe Davis. This was completely wrong. Bernard is arguably better than Edmunds and Brown has improved to a good starting RT - exactly as Beane forecasted. Davis is the same WR he’s been for 3 years. Good for a few big TD catches, an occasional big game but overall just too inconsistent and not enough of a factor at WR2. In the end the player I thought was the safest to improve, ended up making the least improvement. Not a player, but the other person Buffalo put a ton of faith in to improve was Ken Dorsey. I was a little concerned about this and the concern turned out to be very valid. His offense never evolved with 12 personnel and instead was too reliant on Josh. I think Dorsey deserved another shot as OC, but in hindsight the best move would likely be to move onto Brady.

I think the talent is starting to get there. For almost two years Chris Simms has been saying “someone else is allowed to step up besides Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs” We’ve seen that happen ever since Joe Brady took over - especially last week against Dallas. For the first time ever, the best player on the Bills offense was not named Allen or Diggs. I don’t think Kincaid is there yet but we’ve seen flashes and Knox is an excellent TE2 though I don’t think he’ll be around long term w/ his contract and Kincaid. The spot that needs to be improved is WR. Diggs is 30 and we might be seeing the beginning of some signs of decline. I think Shakir has potential as a WR3 but lacks the overall consistency. Gabe Davis… great blocker but we need more of a threat at WR2. OL is pretty good and should return next season in tact though at some point, a Mitch Morse replacement will be needed. So they are getting there - I’d still like to see a WR taken in R1 this year

You mean 4 years ago?

Did McKenzie do anything Harty doesn’t? His receiving stats were better but there also was less competition at slot WR last year. Not that I think Harty was a HR by any means. It was a bad signing. But I don’t feel the Bills really miss McKenzie after we saw what he could do in an expanded role last season.

Should he have done the resume building part before Week 15?

you left off the most important talking point - Dan played for many lousy coaches and never noticed an interim coach “bump.” He also compared the lame duck games to the preseason

Different approach but the same result. In both cases I think the game script helped limit effectiveness. The Bills got up early and never looked back. I also think they gave Brown a lot of help on Crosby and schemes around Parsons. Every defense the Bills have faced over since Brady has been ranked in the Top 10 with good pass rushers, yet for the most part, none really blew up a game. The most pressure came against Kansas City’s defensive line who is solid but unspectacular aside from Jones. Still the offense averaged 29 ppg. LAC will be the worst defense the Bills face here on out and hopefully that bodes well

I love how much Dawson is having and how relaxed his in a high pressure situation. I’m way more stressed that he is watching the broadcast

This is was an astute observation last month that rings even more true today. The narrative is often that “Josh over McDermott.” I’d almost argue that Josh overcame Dorsey as OC. His talent and ability to get the ball to Stef for plays helped elevate the offense statistically but it just never looked smooth. It was always Josh throwing to Diggs or Josh throwing deep to Gabe Davis. When the big plays were taken away the offense had zero answers. This is why IMO Dorsey wanted to turn Josh into an efficient short game passer that runs out of 2 TE sets. It’s my believe this was a Dorsey concept and not a McDermott one. It made sense on paper but in actuality it restricted his strengths. I think Brady’s play calling and game plans have been better but also gave Josh answers when teams focused on taking away Diggs the past few weeks. This is what Dorsey never could do and I think that offense post-Miami was a big reason why the Bills dropped some games they should have won.

Murray serves a purpose. He typically is able to get tough running yards and is a good blocker (usually). They can also trust him to protect the football (though he almost dropped an easy pass in KC).

So the fact that he’s traditionally been good would essentially debunk the Tyler Dunne narrative that the he gets too “tight” in late game situations. This season has been quite been odd in one score games to say the least. I’be always said it shouldn’t all be on McDermott in these situations. Of course you can find fault in the play calls in the situation but you also can’t overlook the individual breakdowns either. NE: defense couldn’t tackle Stevenson on a screen and defenders gave NE cheap yards on PI penalties. CIN: Failed to get off the field in 3rd and 3 when Von lost contain on Joe Mixon. DEN: Denver was stopped on 4th down at midfield before a PI penalty put them in FG range. (12 men on field still inexcusible) PHIL: Scheme could have been better but lost lead on a percentage FG in regulation. Overtime defense was a cluster. The most frustrating part is that right before the game winning score, Josh drove the Bills down the field to take the lead. So incredibly frustrating. Dan Orlavsky talked about the game plan on One Bills Drive as praised Dorsey. He said the Bills chose run away from and to not block Parsons and put him in conflict. They could do this because of Josh Allen - but he also said Detroit tried this same approach on Maxx Crosby and it was a disaster. I can’t remember a time when Dorsey had such a creative game plan that worked to perfection like this. Joe Brady is a smart guy

Why are you calling him McKittrick? I don’t get it and it isn’t funny

We could find about 50 ”what if” examples this season. Pretty foolish to bring this up

Uh….I didn’t find this clip to be as nearly as profound as you did. It starts with Peter rambling and cutting himself off mid-sentence. The clip he referenced about the Bills odds was more positive than negative regarding their playoff chances and showed how might higher the odds had gotten over the past two weeks. King them completely contradicted himself by saying “The Bills are one of the best teams in the NFL…RIGHT NOW” and the mentioning they have an “upward climb?” Let me get this right…one the best teams playing against 5-9 and 3-11 team is an “upward climb?” Everyone wants to say he was slow to fire Dorsey but when I ask the proceeding question, no one has an answer - Explain when McDermott should have fired Ken Dorsey? I thought Denver was his first real opportunity to do and even then he took a lot of ***** for it. Now we see it was the right move. Not making the move earlier probably cost the Bills a few wins, but I think you need to give your OC (especially one that was so close to your franchise QB) opportunists to improve.

You make it sounds like it was a mistake to move on. They gave Harty a decent contract which clearly was a miss from a production standpoint. The difference is he doesn’t make the mental mistakes that McKenzie did. Sherrield was signed to the vet minimum - not sure where the “lot of money” comes from. He hasn’t had the receptions but has helped in the run game and special teams. Shakir will finish the year with stats close to what McKenzie had in 2022. He more than picked up the slack and again…doesn’t make the metal mistakes. Overall it was a good decision to move on from McKenzie.

You could also bite the bullet and pay the $5 for Peacock

Former Buffalo Bills “captain for a game” IK Enemkpali

If it were PED’s wouldn’t the discipline come from the league and not the team? Fighting or repeatedly breaking rules like showing up to practice seems like it would be a one game suspension. The fact they are suspended for the final 3 games of the season by the team is almost unprecedented.

Probably the best fit for him. I have a feeling he wants to go back to KC. Probably…he won’t see many snaps in Buffalo

Who is Taron’s biggest completion? Mike Hilton? He’s kind of in a league of his own, considering he’s basically playing linebacker

Miami just released JPP….coincidence?

100% the article was an editorial and Dunne went too hard on his take using personal anecdotes to add credibility to his opinion. As a result he’s known as the guy that wrote a “hit piece” and he’s currently hiding from the criticism on Twitter and commenting behind a paywall. It says a lot Ok that’s fine. But to your point, just because Dunne chose to include a positive quote does not absolve him like you are trying to do. But to your point, from everything he’s said publicly about McDermott and vice versa, I think the two have a good relationship.

The Bills wanted to upgrade from McKenzie which is why the signed Harty. The thought was that he could take a step forward and play WR3. They put a lot of confidence in him, and it didn’t really work out. Harty’s been a disappointment, yet his numbers are slightly better.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dunne has been in hiding but will occasionally respond politely to some of the criticism. He doesn’t seem to be reveling in the controversy.