Billy Claude

Definitely, the Browns do have a record about as bad as the Bills and Jets. You can put down the whole 6-3 Browns Bills game as an embarrassment for both sides. One special feature of the Butt Fumble was it was from a meaningless game between a 6-7 and 10-3 team (albeit Thanksgiving). The other plays with nicknames such as Wide Right, Home Run Throwback, The Fumble and the Immaculate Reception were all crucial plays that decided playoff games. The other one other named play that I can think of was the "Just Give It to Them" game between the Bills and the Patriots though I don't know if anyone but Bills fans would recognize the name while pretty much any NFL fan would recognize Butt-Fumble.

The Jets would definitely give the Bills a run for the money. The butt fumble has its own Wikipedia page.

I don't think Shady would have said anything. Didn't they release him rather than trying to trade him as sort of a favor so he could sign with anyone he wanted? Of course, it was not clear that they could have gotten anything for him. I seem to remember Watkins or perhaps Dareus throwing some very slight shade about how great it was to play somewhere with a chance to win but those were first year. In any case, its been pretty remarkable how positive ex-Bills have been about McDermott and Beane after the stuff some of the players said about Rex, Whaley, and Doug Marrone.

Has any ex-Bills had negative comments about McDermott/Beane? There might have been a few during the first year but after that? Maybe Quinton Spain said something?

How hard can it be? Kelvin Benjamin and Tim Tebow are expected to pick it up immediately with zero experience! Kidding -- he did play better towards the end of last year.

Absolutely. The Browns were one of the teams that voted not to attend OTAs. Also I believe the rookies are still attending.

Went over my head originally.

Trapasso is not clear what is meant by "redshirt" and I think his definition for qbs is different than for other positions, but why spent all that time talking about what the Bills did with Epenesa if that is not the model? One thing for sure is that he definitely did not mean the pre-2018 NCAA definition of zero snaps.

What I don't understand about Christian Wade is, why would he want to be back? I understand his pay is similar to what he got as a star in professional rugby. Why would he want to waste another year of his athletic prime sitting on the bench without even a chance of a call-up? I wouldn't be surprise if he goes thru training camp and goes back to rugby if the Bills try to put him into the exempt practice squad position again.

If you read the article, what Trapasso meant by a redshirt year for Rousseau is a year similar to what Epenesa had, i.e., very limited playing time at the beginning of the season and maybe only a couple of games where he plays 30 snaps at the end of the season. I hope he plays a bigger role than that, but nothing to be outraged about.

I agree with you but some of the Flutie fan reactions were pretty over the top.in any case, one thing for sure is that Flut8e would've have been sacked 6 times in the Titans game.

I always felt some of the hatred was a reaction to overzealous newbie Canadian fans who flet that Flutie could do no wrong.

I would also like to ask Kyle Williams his honest opinion of all the Bills head coaches he played for. It would be interesting to know if it was the same from the inside as it looked to the fans on the outside.

I believe there was a quote from Flutie when he left that said essentially something like I might not be the best QB in the NFL but you can't tell me I'm not better than that guy. I would like to ask Eric Moulds what what he thought of Johnson vs. Flutie.

Thanks. That was very illuminating.

I apologize for taking this off topic -- but I would be interested in what your opinion regarding the super-league. It was handled extremely badly and destroys tradition, but on the other hand, a team like the Bills would probably have been relegated a long time ago under the European system. Even teams like Tottenham and Arsenal seem like they may not have the financial resources to compete with the Manchester City's and Liverpools of the world.

It's harder, but you can still win with a strong running game, a very strong defense and competent quarterbacking. The 49ers went to the Super Bowl with that just two years ago.

I thought he was going to be a great coach his first year there but now, it seems he has too much of that smartest guy in the room attitude that a lot of the ex-Patriots assistants have. He did a lot of things that are pretty hard to understand last year, things that must have led to issues in the locker room.

Was Ted Washington and Pat Williams both Tom Donahue? Which one was it who supposedly went to Donahue's office and begged to stay with the Bills.

Don't forget getting rid of Ted Washington because Gregg Williams didn't like fat guys and essentially wrecking a top of the league defense.

I believe it was overwhelming arrogance in combination with the incompetence. I knew something was wrong when Marvin Lewis, who everybody expected to go to the Bills, chose the Bengals instead.

Not surprised that the guy from NFL.com is the easiest grader.

I have to believe some of these exceptional numbers are due to the lack of a combine this year. I would be curious if someone analyzed these numbers for this year vs. previous years. For example, average 40 times for all drafted wide receivers, this year vs. previous.

The Browns had a really nice draft. I think most folks on the board would be pretty happy if the Bills had gotten the players the Browns got in the first three rounds.

Probably you are correct. Either they really are going to take Mac Jones or its just the media repeating itself. I don't see any purpose of the 49ers floating fake stories about it.