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Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
You probably would if it came to that but I don’t see a world where it comes to that 😂. That wouldn’t move the needle for the raiders at all -
It’s so crazy that that is somehow not an excuse for losing a close game to a very healthy chiefs team lol. Injuries are no excuse sure but within reason. If the chiefs were the team that lost enough linebackers that aj klein got 98% of the linebacker snaps over Bolton they would’ve gotten boatraced
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He was looking really good before the knee injury but the way it went down I’d agree. I think he had 8 sacks in like 10 games in that season I’ve gotta doublecheck obviously the DV suspension is all on him haha can’t blame the injury gods for that one can’t remember if we had any interest the year the rams traded for him but the cruel irony of all this is if we grabbed him mid season in 2021 I think we win the Super Bowl. He was great for the rams and looked just as good for us pre acl injury Yea this is not a flat bust situation where he underwhelmed with us pre injury. He was great in the playoffs with the rams and picked up right where he left off with us.. I remember people being very concerned when he was out and our pass rush fell off a cliff if memory serves
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Yea I remember us all saying all the same things we are now leading up to that second matchup because it was coming right on the heels of that broncos loss and we roughed them up. Granted their qb was Zach Wilson but still haha he had beaten us before. im still pretty peeved by that obvious block in the back on their punt return in that week 1 game but I guess it wouldn’t have changed much as we lost a home playoff game anyway
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I still think about that peterman game from time to time 🤣. It’s so funny cuz the offense was actually moving the ball the first couple plays and I believe the first pick was an unlucky-ish tipped ball or something like that and then it just snowballed out of control lol after the first two picks(one being a pick six) the game was only 7-7 somehow. Chargers missed a fg after that second pick
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It does seem uneccessarily semantic argument-like in here after games like that lol at the end of the day no matter what was who’s fault josh had a handful of plays he flat out missed that could’ve swung the game and he’s getting the big paychecks. Things are makin his life harder sure but he’d be the first to admit he could’ve won that one by just playing better on his own
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I think if ulbricht was head coach and had a competent DC in there it couldn’t be worse than Saleh, but now that he has head coaching responsibilities on top of his normal job things absolutely could get worse. They took the one guy doing his job and filled his plate with other stuff and replaced a terrible play caller with a terrible play caller. I mean we’ll see for sure…but I think they just torpedoed any possible chance of Rodgers doing anything in probably 50% of his remaining seasons also I doubt the players took it super well I get that it was a long shot that Saleh does anything meaningful this year but they went from long shot to no shot imo.
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I think they were facing a full on mutiny from players probably thinking ‘yea Saleh isn’t successful but how did this firing fix anything. Were still in this and you quit on us’ so they pretty much had to do something may or may not involve rodgers. When woody and Aaron are involved really anything is possible haha woody might’ve just woken up in a bad mood…I heard some people saying that woody had friends at that London game and called it a must win
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I was poking around the nfl reddit and fans with familiarity with downing at OC seem to think he is even worse than Hackett 🤣. He had a short stint at OC for the titans and the raiders a few years before that. Hardly ever held on to a multi year OC gig in a 20 year career that’s a bit of a red flag
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Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
There’s just no way there’s players involved from us. 2nd and 5th is already more than beane would likely offer, and if we’re already offering those picks then the players have to be so inconsequential that they’d mean nothing to LA anyway. They’re much more valuable to us because they know our playbook and can come in in a pinch due to injury and would just be wasted roster space for LA. It just doesn’t make sense that that was our offer -
Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
How many mid season player for player trades even are there in all of the nfl? Lol. I can’t think of any offhand I don’t know why you’d even send players to la in this situation it makes no sense -
I can see it, but on the flip side it’s almost impossible to know that the alternative is going to be better and they’re basically back to square 1 once Rodgers retires in 1-2 years. I would’ve rolled with Saleh for this year at least personally, mostly because you’re dumping a bunch of extra responsibility on top of ulbricht who was doing his thing well.
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We were spoiled for the last 6 years
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to DeepPass's topic in The Stadium Wall
This is a pretty interesting thought experiment from a team perspective (unless you’re guaranteed the Super Bowl of course 🤣). Let’s say you were the Super Bowl year rams and someone told you ‘if you make all these moves you’ve got a 50/50 shot at the superbowl but you will not be realistically competitive for 3 years after that and it is a complete unknown past then. Do you do it? even if you’re the best roster by a decent margin it’s still really tough getting through a single elimination playoff structure…its just so high variance -
Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
There’s no way beane would offer two picks and two players in this situation even if the players were inconsequential. An inconsequential player knows the playbook at least and can get forced into playing due to injury you just never know…he’d never do that midseason. if we don’t end up getting Adams I bet Beane offered a second and didn’t go much beyond that -
Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
Yea it definitely wasn’t a deep rooted thing haha and it had nothing to do with how the fans treat their own team -
Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
It wasn’t a game he played in…they asked him and st brown who the worst fan base is and adams said bills because of snowballs essentially. It must’ve been a current ish event at the time. Not sure when that podcast aired. Probably pretty close to the dolphins game -
Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
For context he was butthurt over the snowball throwing specifically which I guarantee you happened in GB plenty of times while he played there lol I doubt he even remembers saying that -
Oh yea I’m not trying to say he doesn’t…maybe going the opposite way with it will illustrate the point better. theres games where we see josh make some mistakes but he’s overall really good and chris simms will be like look at these four plays he’s the best player in football hands down 😂. It’s just better tv that way. Doesn’t mean that Simms can’t run circles around all of us in film analysis he’s just gotta wear that tv personality hat too and it gets pretty grating for me at times even when he’s talking josh up lol florio has that limitation also and knows way less so he’s much worse I don’t think it’s ever as bad or as good as the several plays they pick for analysis makes it look
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We were spoiled for the last 6 years
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to DeepPass's topic in The Stadium Wall
I wouldn’t say spoiled at all but we do tend to overreact to regular season losses which is a different thing lol -
Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
If it was more reasonable of an offer I might believe the no rumor haha but player for player type trades midseason are pretty rare to begin with and on top of that that’s giving up a ton. I don’t think beane would ever offer that -
Raiders are open to trading Davante Adams
Generic_Bills_Fan replied to HappyDays's topic in The Stadium Wall
There’s no way that’s true 🤣 -
Yea I just made a more detailed post about it responding to someone else haha I think if he could devote more time on air to each game it would be different, but it’s just the handful of plays that support their narrative and then the narrative. They are tv personalities too and the narratives are what sells. He knows more about football than I can learn in 5 lifetimes for sure 😂 That’s not really what I was trying to say haha but I mostly agree with you overall. I think they get caught up pushing a narrative on air sometimes cuz it’s good tv.
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I definitely don’t full disagree with this by any means but I feel like in the interest of time they don’t tell you the full story and will just show you only what proves their overall narrative and then us as fans overly panic. im sure if simms could sit us all down for an hour and go through a game it would be really informative and the plays that maybe go against his overall game judgement would be analyzed too