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straw man. nevery said they made the wrong choice. simply said they had choices and made a choice. my original response was to someone portraying the Bills as victims due to the choice they made. the Bills are most definitely NOT a victim in this fiasco.

Bengals are ahead of the Bills until proven otherwise. Two years in a row, the Bengals advance further than the Bills This past season the Bengals stomped the Bills. They are not even.

It will be interesting to see if the NFL decorates end zones with "Innocent until proven guilty" this coming season. In the name of social justice.

they had a choice. They took the safe choice.

You can't measure this stuff in a vacuum. Take fifth round pick Justin Shorter: The following four receivers were more highly touted going into the draft than Shorter. If all of them went on to big NFL succcess, and Shorter did not, it would be fair to say Beane made a meaningful mistake. If Shorter and all the WR's picked after him fail in the NFL, one might complain it was a bad positional pick, but hard to complain more than that. 21) Parker Washington, Penn State Round 6, Pick 185 | Jaguars 22) Kayshon Boutte, LSU Round 6, Pick 187 | Patriots 23) Trey Palmer, Nebraska Round 6, Pick 191 | Buccaneers 24) A.T. Perry, Wake Forest Round 6, Pick 195 | Saints

I don't fault them. I just said they were the Bills decisions. And they knew the consequences of the decisions. No one owes them anything for the decisions they made. It appears all 32 NFL teams would have made the same decision. Certainly no one signed him. But there is an alternative decision reality. Bills could have stood behind Araiza, and said, unless he is arrested or otherwise charged as a crime, this is a matter for the San Diego police, not his employer. In 2023, no employers stand up to the social justice mob, so this may not have been realistic. But in the 50's no one stood up to the McCarthyist black listing until someone said "enough". The Bills could have been the ones to say "enough". They played it safe. Not faulting them.

If Beane says their league forced it I will believe Beane. But until that is said it was the Bills final decision.

Bills own the decision to buckle under pressure and cut him. They own the consequences of their decision.

This is very wrong.

Your just wrong. Sorry.

In terms of advancing through the playoffs, Hurts is more successful. In terms of QB talent Allen blows Hurts away.

Yes. Acknowledged that a couple of posts back. Your late to the game.

My mistake

We did not pick up edmunds. We did not pick up oliver. How is Beane 100%. Willing to learn.

I am trying to understand how he is 100%

this is why the Dolphins almost beat the Bills with a backup QB.

What order would you rank the AFCE coaches in, in terms of liklihood of winning a Super Bowl. (one guy already has).

The only way a good coach can be expected to win it all, is to have the best QB, and the best roster in the NFL on both sides of the ball. If you don't give the coach those tools, you can't judge his performance.

I don't think this is accurate in reality. Nonsense comment.

Again, the Bills were the best team in football at moving the chains. Why must we move them a different way than we do now?

People say this, but why? Bills moved the chains better than anyother team in football last year.

It is based on the general theory that all wealthy people are corrupt, and sharing the wealth must share the corruptness.

This is literally true for every single team other than the Chiefs.

My personal observation is that most fans think their teams improve from FA and the draft every single year. Clearly not everybody can improve. My personal estimate is that over 80% of fans think their team is better now than they were at the end of the season last year. Probably 30% think their team 'won the off season". This is one of the biggest mismatches between perception and reality in the universe of NFL fandom.