Billl

Not a problem, I just find it amusing that you think Josh is going to leave $100,000,000 on the table whereas Mahomes’s incredibly team friendly deal is going to be some sort of albatross.

You’re the same guy who just said this about Josh... I’m not sure you understand how this all works.

The salary cap is about to explode given the new TV deal, gambling revenue, and fans returning. I could see 6 years for $270,000,000.

Great signing.

It’s not just a third round pick, though. It’s a third round pick AND $8,250,000. For that level of assets, I think I could get something better than a 31 year old TE coming off a terrible season who will be a FA in a year.

If the need is getting Josh killed because his RB can’t pick up a blitz to save his life, Lindsay is your guy. He was pretty good runner, but he doesn’t do much in terms of receiving and is a huge liability blocking. He’s also broken.

75% chance he wants to return. 50% chance we cut him if he does. Up to $5M. It’s going to be heavily incentive laden. If he can’t play, it’s going to look a lot like the veteran minimum.

Allen needs a new contract in the near future. His cap hit will be minimal for a few more years.

Sure, but Roaf didn’t have to beat cancer. There’s a very real chance he wants to secure as much guaranteed money as possible. Not all 4/$160M deals are created equal. Meanwhile, they just lost Mitchell Schwartz who is likely to be retiring at age 31.

100% true. What would you be willing to offer in terms of a contract and picks? He’s a prime candidate to be cut, IMO.

For a guy his age and with his health history, the devil will be in the details. Very likely he’s willing to give up AAV for more guaranteed $$$$.

I don’t think he’s trash by any means, but I sure as hell wouldn’t give up picks for the privilege of paying him $8.5 million. It’s entirely possible that he has a bounce back season, but counting on guys over 30 to do that is a big gamble. That said, Josh with a weapon at TE would be dangerous.

Ertz

31 and coming off the best season in history for a TE. If Ertz was coming off a career year, his age wouldn’t be a concern. Tom Brady is 43, so you thinking Tyrod’s going to hit his prime in 5 years?

That’s a really solid season, but he’s nowhere near that fast anymore.

72 targets, 36 catches, 1 TD, 5 drops, and 4.7 yards per target. There are “down years” and there are “worst pass catcher in the league” years. He’s over 30 and is the 7th highest paid TE. You want to give up a draft pick for the right to pay him?

A broken player owed $8.5M? They should be sending Beane the 4th rounder to take him.

They’re getting killed, and he looks bad for sure.

Mahomes played without three and a half first stringers, but most of them were out for all or the majority of the year. Allen had his entire line healthy. Advantage Mahomes, obviously. 🙄

And those players who played in their absence are called backups. So to repeat the question, do you think Mahomes line of mostly backups gave him an advantage over the line that was protecting Allen? When Kansas City brought pressure, Allen took big sacks and put the ball into harm’s way. When Buffalo brought pressure, Mahomes dodged it or got the ball out immediately.

Tell that to Mitchell Schwartz, Kelechi Osemeli, Laurent Duverney Tardif, and Eric Fisher.

Do you think Mahomes had a better line what with 4 of 5 starters being out, or do you think he did a great job of reading the defense pre snap, identifying mismatches, and making quick decisions? Josh looked confused. He changed plays consistently, but the defense adjusted as well. He was under pressure, but he also missed plenty of throws that were there and got lucky with a couple of terrible decisions that could easily have been interceptions. I can't think of a single play where Mahomes made a bad read or missed a throw. When Buffalo blitzers got a clean shot at him, he shrugged them off and hit big plays. When Kansas City blitzed, Josh took huge sacks. Both guys are Favre physically. Mahomes is turning into Brady mentally to go with it.

Rings aren’t the end all be all, but they certainly matter. If Rodgers had 3 and Brady had 5, you could have the discussion. If Rodgers retires with 1 and Brady retires with 7, you can’t. If Mahomes wins today, the discussion will start warming up. If Brady wins, I don’t think Patrick will ever be able to close that gap.

Allen finished ahead of Mahomes in the MVP vote. Seems legit.

If Beane is going to take a RB, it should be in the first round. Normally I’m against taking them high, but if he’s going to try for a third straight year then he needs to stop screwing around and take the top guy. You can’t keep wasting early picks on failed RBs when that’s literally the easiest position to find. Go get the top one in the draft or just say screw it and bring in a dozen UDFAs. Adequate RBs grow on trees. Fournette and Bell were outright released early in the season. Now they’re in the Super Bowl. There’s no excuse for not having someone capable even if you never draft any.