BeastMaster

It's a pretty big red flag when a division rival trades with you Dotson is a PSU guy, which is why Philly thinks he might be worth taking a shot on A small, speed receiver that hasn't really stayed healthy or all that productive? Isn't this basically KJ Hamler?

I am just as interested as the past few seasons My expectations are a bit lower, but that's not necessarily a bad thing since they always fail to meet my expectations because they have been so high I am excited to see Josh Allen lead this team and to see if he can run a successful offense with the receiving group he has

The fact that you keep making my point for me and that my original point is still lost on you is really something Yes, the KC offense has still been good enough to not just win, but to win it all despite getting rid of a top flight WR in Tyreek Hill and replacing him with average wideouts speaks to the value of a great offensive scheme and a QB that operates it to perfection. Sure, they have Kelce, but we have Kincaid. They replaced Hill with JAGS and drafted some guys...we did the same. And you can try to say Rice was more accomplished than Keon, but it's nowhere near an apples to apples comparison. Different offense in different conferences means something. We could've drafted another wideout, but that's nowhere near a guarantee that he pans out (see Skyy Moore). We signed Samuel, who will likely be more productive than any second or third rounder we would've picked. We have basically copied what KC has done by drafting a pass catching TE and let our overpaid headache walk and replaced with draft picks and middling aqusitions via free agency. All the pearl clutching and belly aching is silly until we see how Josh does with this group in this offense

And he was considered a average prospect when he came to KC What says Keon couldn't do the same, and who says Mahomes and the KC system isn't a huge reason for his success? I think you missed the point here, my guy

My point was more that great QB's can win and have a successful offense with a group of mediocre receivers. It's more about the QB and the system than the receiving talent. It's why KC let Tyreek walk, and why Brady never had big time receivers that were making top dollar.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mahomes win a SB last season with basically nothing at WR? Brady did the same. Great QB's have made the receivers...not the other way around. The jury is obviously still out, but I personally want to see Josh with a group of lesser talented guys that play hard and do things the right way so that Josh and the system can operate as intended. Now it could fail spectacularly and I will be regretting what we didn't do, but the fact is that we didn't have cap space and Diggs/Davis wasn't a good fit anymore. They brought guys in that had experience and at least a modicum of success in Samuel, Holllins, Claypool, and MVS. Should they have drafted another receiver in the draft? Probably. Would that have made a significant difference? Consider my highly skeptical on that one. This year we find out how good Josh can make a group of receivers without proven pedigrees...just like many greats have done before him. If it doesn't work, this organization is set up with draft capital and cap space to remedy it. I suggest accepting what many expected this season to be at the end of last season...a reset of the cap so we can make a run after this upcoming season. If we exceed expectations, consider it a bonus.

Maybe you should wait till a real game is played and you see that the passing offense is a problem before you try to make an "I told you so" post?

It's going to come down to how we fair against Miami and the Jets Whoever has the worst combined record in the division against each other is going to be out IMO

I'm absolutely fine with Keon making a business decision in a meaningless preseason game I'll have a different take if he does that in the regular season, but it wasn't worth it in this particular instance.

Keon Coleman is a Tee Higgins clone

That would be a massive failure on the part of this team's staff if they didn't recognize this and moved to fix the issue I personally think you're being overly pessimistic, but who really knows

Dumb decision by Miami Without Hill, Waddle would struggle to be a number one receiver IMHO He's being paid as that, and with Hill clearly being the guy...I imagine it's only a matter of time before he makes noise about a pay raise himself

Not even close to getting that ninth pick, my guy Next year's first and second with the 1st and 2nd from this year's and maybe you are in the ballpark

That doesn't get you anywhere near the ninth pick, so you could sign up all day and all night for it and it would never come to fruition

I think this is part of the issue. It's like people are playing Madden and they are upset because our best WR is an 81 and most teams have a 88 or better. The real question and possible problem will be is there a guy we can go to when we need a play? Is that guy even on the roster? Is there maybe more than one? I think Coleman was drafted to be able to win jump balls and make contested catches, but can someone else be counted on when we have to have a first down? I won't debate whether most teams have a stronger WR group at the top, but what about all around depth? Do they have a mixture of size, speed, blocking, slot guys, etc? There's also so many different factors like the coordinator, the system, the guy throwing the ball, the Oline, the RB's I trust that these guys have a plan, and hopefully it's not a McDermott plan when it comes to the offense because he has no business on that side of the ball

I expect everyone to speak truthfully here, and if you are not, then I don't know what your purpose is here. That being said, I appreciate your commentary and simply think you are just wrong on this one, but like everything...time will tell.

This post probably sums it up best. The optimists will see what has been done and will envision it working out well. It likely won't be as great as they think, and there will be struggles along the way. The same can be said about the skeptics/pessimists. They think they have a bottom of the league group and that the offense will suffer. This take is also not very likely given the offense is led by Josh Allen and a good Oline and good RB's

The problem is that your basing it on not having an elite receiver out of the group. Is that a bad thing? I'm not so sure it is. Diggs demanded the ball, and if he wasn't getting his targets, he was not happy about it. If you think that didn't play into Josh's mindset that he had to prioritize Diggs instead of run the offense as intended, smoke another one. Josh being able to just go through his reads and make the right play could lead to more improvement just on that alone. Also, we went through in previous threads here on the board where elite WR's have gotten their teams, and generally speaking they don't get them over the hump, yet you continue to pine for one...even though we already did that and that guy failed in the playoffs. You also don't like Coleman, so that is affecting your outlook on the group. If he's Tee Higgins, this group is more than fine, and I actually think he can be Tee Higgins with some more ability underneath and a bigger route tree. We lost Diggs and Davis, but we have added numerous guys that can play and produce. I'm not overly concerned

I think this reads as a Debbie Downer post, and TBH I have problems with it. First off, I really think your nit picking with this obsession of wanting to draft another WR in the third and signing a JAG DT. We got a versatile DL that has some real upside where we need someone young at the position besides Oliver. We have a young receiving group and MVS fills not only a element we seem to be lacking, but also has alot of experience to add to our group. I'd rather that then what you suggest. Secondly, yeah...you can say we are making Chiefs moves years after them, but they really didn't do much for Mahomes, and I would argue that the Bills had more on offense and that they did more to help Josh and the offense in general. Mahomes was left with Kelce, no noteworthy RB's, and they drafted Sky Moore. The Bills have Cook, Kincaid, Knox, and Shakir...while they brought in Samuel and drafted Coleman and Davis along with guys that have some talent in Claypool and Hamler to challenge others like Hollins and Shorter. That is much better support than the Chiefs gave Mahomes after Tyreek was dealt. I would be willing to bet that this offense stays pretty much where they were at last season, and they are for sure in the top half of the league.

That's fair, but we are in a win now mode with Josh, so the experience MVS has is valuable right now BTJ could become much better than MVS will ever be, but I'd take MVS this season over him

All the people that wanted Brian Thomas Jr should love this move They are the same type of player, and neither has been reliable catching the ball

Gameday. Roster.

He provides the element that our receiving corps is lacking...sans the drops I won't hate it if they sign him, but expect some bad drops

I would trade for Metcalf for sure I would also trade for Hopkins or Adams if the price was not too much Metcalf is a guy you can then pay and have as your number one. Hopkins and Adams would be rentals The fact that Aiyuk wants to be paid right now and that SF is asking alot is a no go for me DJ Moore is interesting as well. I would view him in the same way as DK where I would trade for him and pay him after this season

MVS, as another poster said is the type of receiver we could use to add due to his size and speed and years of some moderate production. Problem is that his hands are simply not good, and I don't think this coaching staff wants to deal with yet another downfield threat dropping passes. Therefore, I wouldn't add anyone from that list