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I am agreeing with you guys lol. What I am saying is that for this iteration of the Bills to work better than the Chiefs (who again, have only been MIDDLING), we needed 2/3 things Brady being a better coach than Reid. Allen playing better ball than Mahomes. Overall offensive talent better than the Chiefs. We all know #3 wasn't possible with this group, this offense is slop. #2 is honestly happening, prior to the Texans game, I think Allen was clearly better than Mahomes this season. And #1 is honestly also not possible. Reid is the best. To @HappyDays point, the Chiefs are also winning more games largely because their defense went dominant. We have a crappier offense AND a crappier defense. It was a predictable losing formula. However, it's easier to say "hire an elite offensive coach," than it is to do it. Ben Johnson looks the part now. I don't know if he's better than Andy. It is easy to say "get better players than Mack Hollins." Extremely easy. Bare minimum easy. So easy, we spent all offseason talking about it.

Meh, who dares wins. Their QB is probably their most "dependent" piece in that offense. I don't feel like they are gonna be "contenders" for the next 4 years regardless of what they do, Goff is gonna be 30 tomorrow. Do you think they have several more years of deep runs? I feel like I see them sorta like that Cousins Vikings team that was a perennial "good but not good enough" team. Another star wideout gives them injury insurance as well. As of right now, they are a twisted ankle out of St. Brown to be in serious trouble. The Rams took their shot in a weak NFC and have had some down years comparably, but the ring lives forever. I agree, you are sacrificing the future. And that's scary. But that's the game lol.

I don't know. But feels like the NFC is wide-open right now, no? Niners look the most vulnerable in a while. Eagles are hit and miss still. Bucs are good, Packers are good, Vikings have Darnold, Bears have a rookie. If you are trying to make a deep run in the conference, a splash right now makes sense. ASB in the slot with Adams and Jamo out wide, LaPorta and the tag team combo at RB? That may be the best offense in the conference.

The greatest offensive coach in NFL history with one of the greatest QBs in NFL history has had a middling offense for 2 seasons straight. Its the talent.

The team is really talentless from top to bottom. You can squeeze a little bit out of the Cam Lewis' and Jamarcus Ingram's of the world but there's a reason those guys are barely in the NFL. When your best safety is Damar Hamlin, your safeties suck. And when your safeties suck at executing basic tasks, i.e. taking run angles, you aren't gonna trust them to do anything exotic. McD has shown he can adjust mid-season schematically, he did it just last year with Poyer playing LB/S hybrid roles because he couldn't run anymore. But between injuries and crappy players, the defense really just kinda sucks.

Starts with really really bad talent. OC gets held back because he is asked to do more with less. QB starts to play worse because everything around them is worse Just so everyone is aware, the Chiefs currently have the 14th ranked offense in points scored. After having the 15th ranked offense last season. Is it because Any Reid can't coach offense? Obviously not. Is it because Mahomes is not one of the best QB's in the game? Obviously not. Is it because their offensive talent is kinda cheeks? Yup. Why would the Bills with Josh, Brady and the island of misfit players be immune from the same problem?

I don't know if this is possible, but the first thing I thought of when the Lions extended Montgomery was that they are in the "adding a player" market. I don't think final numbers have been released yet, but I imagine it lowered his cap number this year alone. Freeing up space for Davante or Cooper?

Yeah, I just watched the play again. Immediately grimacing and kicking his feet? You mean after he goes limp and doesn't protect his (lied about) broken hand at all? The defender has his legs in his grasp. Also, do you think it's kinda suspicious that the dude has said every injury except the one would keep him out of the game? I don't know if you've hand a broken hand or not. But conscious, non-head trauma people usually protect their broken hands, not let them drag along the floor. I hope you're right FWIW. I hope we don't see this video plastered all over everything about how it was clearly a lie that Allen's ankle/chest were just hurt after bouncing his head off the turf and going limp.

Tua passed the protocol at the time and played the next week. Here's what the NFL and NFLPA said, after Tua suffered his "first" concussion the next week against the Bengals. As Tagovailoa recovered from the concussion suffered against Cincinnati, the NFL and NFL Players Association said in a joint statement that steps should have prevented him from reentering against the Bills. While "the step-by-step process outlined in the concussion protocol was followed," the statement said, "the outcome in this case was not what was intended." https://sports.yahoo.com/tua-tagovailoas-latest-concussion-know-153800584.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAAEs-D0qaNx2IMr9rw1RwT5rFQU-kvIo5osiEp-7Eg7VmXh857bzfsJ1U4CVvgYpVrc0iSy6DM2rL8D-3Abix5iJTNRpSXfjGXmg9e_oaLhKiA_zlOVfmsnaSUAt9q7OM3dkxLgBTY1phWFzXYr6PCrciHxZBzcfn4I3O2E3GiFb So the reason I want to know your stance on the Dolphins is really simple. Because Tua cleared protocol with a back injury. No one was "sure" they did anything wrong until after the fact. If you opined that Tua's injury was "obvious" in hindsight, but that the Bills are completely in the clear because Josh Allen cleared their "protocols" (that have failed with disastrous consequences in the past), I would find that contradictory at best. I don't know if Josh had a concussion or not. I don't know if he was knocked out or not. I know from watching that I was personally suspicious he was concussed. I also know that he was reported as "cleared" which hasn't meant much historically when it comes to the NFL. So the definitive nature of "He was cleared! He obviously didn't have a concussion" fall apart with even basic scrutiny. Obviously that's my opinion. Hope the kid is okay. Hope he doesn't exit with another head injury that makes this discourse look really really silly after the fact. We have unfortunately seen it before.

Historically, BB has been very complimentary of Hyde and Poyer and their ability to disguise coverage FWIW.

Tbh, I want to know the takes of everybody when Tua suffered a back injury two years ago before I listen to how definitive the lack of evidence is here.

Imagine how much worse off we would be without Beane the Wizard (tm)

We wouldn't get any value from a 2025 6th round pick right now either.

I don't light uncontrollable grease fires at my house. I used to be a firefighter and it's the right thing to do

"This guy has a big contract, is always hurt and he's 30. Let's make an explosive trade for serious draft capital."

Exactly. That's why projections based on years past YPT and average pass attempts don't work. Projections now would say that Josh Allen will basically have barely a better year than Bryce Young did last year. That likely won't be the case and there's a million reasons why. Just like it was never going to be the case that Josh was going to throw for 4500 yards with this group on the lowest attempt total he's had since 2019. It's faulty analysis.

Just so we're clear with why projections like this don't work. Football isn't played on a spread sheet, this isn't baseball or basketball. Let's look at the pace now Josh Allen is on pace for 445 attempts through 5 games. Target breakdowns: Cook - 44.2 Shakir - 64 Samuel - 44.2 Coleman - 54.4 Knox - 17 Kincaid - 81.6 MVS - 30.6 Mack - 57.8 YPT on the year so far: Cook - 10.9 (479.6) Shakir - 12.1 (774.4) Samuel - 3.7 (163.5) Coleman - 10.9 (594) Knox - 6.0 (102) Kincaid - 6.9 (563) MVS - 2.9 (88.74) Mack - 4.3 (248.5) That puts Josh at a whopping 3013.74 yards passing. Which would be the second lowest total of his career, just in front of 2018 (he only played 11 games that season). That would have been smack dab between Russell Wilson and Bryce Young last year for a passing total.

Honestly, I highly recommend starting from page 1 and reading this thread. Highly entertaining. Not as good as the "Diggs cryptic tweets" thread but it's up there. Gold star for this one on page 2. This is knowing ball, the post.

The 2017 team wasn't the 15 or 16 teams. They intentionally traded their talent away for picks. They had the 29th ranked offense in the NFL. The 22nd ranked defense. Both units were 23rd in points per drive. They were negative in point differential at -57 (worst of all playoff teams). They were, quite literally, god awful and easily the worst playoff team that year.

Swap WR groups even with the Nico injury and the Bills win by 30 imo.

A QB breaking their hand week 1 hurdling defenders, then bruising or breaking ribs week 4 on the worst trick play of all time, then smacking their head and playing with a "chest" injury is looking "off." I don't think this is a mystery.

Very glad he found Allen. A total feather in his cap. Just like McD getting that god awful team to the playoffs in 2017. Thanks for the memories. We can send them both rings when we win one. Speaking of guys who got fired after finding a franchise QB and doing their damnedest to ruin him.... https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ryan+grigson

Then they can both lockstep to the bread line!

You fire both, let the new regime get at pick 19 which will probably be the best pick we get in the Josh Allen era, and go from there. Beane wasn't in charge at Carolina, I never said he was. He was a part of that org. That org consistently failed to put WR talent around Cam and asked him to be Superman far too often. They loved big slows at WR and overspent constantly on DL. That sounds awful familiar. Like I said, there's no evidence that Beane is this forward thinker that was disagreeing with Gettleman and now McD. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada. You won't offer any evidence because you can't. The only reason you can believe that is because you want to pin everything on McD. It's far far far far more likely that he is cut from the same cloth as his contemporaries from Carolina and is following that playbook here because that's where he cut his football teeth and what he actually believes. This is inarguable. There's a reason McD hired him as the GM in the first place. I don't think it was because Beane had vastly different team-building ideas. That would make no sense. Both are the wrong fit, both were a part of the regime than ruined Cam and are now actively ruining Josh running the same playbook. It's ova, show them the door. Also, Ryan Grigson. Let me know when you want to address that.

There is exactly zero evidence that Beane is being put in chokehold by McDermott to fail at WR. The FO's Beane was a part of in Carolina also failed at WR. Cam won MVP throwing to Tedd Ginn and Devin Funchess. McD wasn't calling the shots out there. Again, build the Ryan Grigson statue. He got the QB situation right. Sure, he was absolute garbage otherwise, got his generational QB killed and injured season after season, and heavily contributed to that QB leaving the team and football all together before 30 years old. But he got the QB situation right. Batting 1.000. You're also wrong about carrying water. Beane and McD have to go. Beane has shown me nothing that proves he deserves a shot without McD's influence. Toss them both, hire Ben Johnson and let him pick a GM we know he aligns with, don't saddle him with more Carolina team-builders who are gonna focus on 100 defensive lineman to play gap control.