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He is Peyton Manning. incredible in the regular season. Great vs WC teams. Inexplicably a disaster when it comes later in the playoffs against contenders.

I STG

A drive absolutely STOLEN from us. Holy *****

Horrible call

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Me too. I don’t want them to let Henry run wild. Sell out to stop the run and I will take my chances on a Lamar vs Josh shootout.

He won’t. its a huge mistake to adjust out of that defense. Shutting down Henry is the key. We can win a track meet. Need Babich to be patient

Please don’t adjust defense. Please please please

That’s the whole point. what Saquon is doing for the Eagles is immaterial to what he would have done for the Giants. Which is maybe get them 4 wins instead of 3. Mara wanted Daniel Jones.

We lost to the Rams already.

Philly losing 29-28 would hurt so bad

Lmao. Saquon Barkley is the reason the Giants aren’t going the NFCCG. Now I’ve heard everything.

"Looked closer at the stats. Mahomes is fourth in rate of RtP calls in the playoffs for starting QBs this year. J. Daniels: 1 game, 1 call, 1.000 per game D. Carr: 1 game, 1 call, 1.000 per game Kirk Cousins: 5 games, 2 calls, .400 per game Patrick Mahomes: 18 games, 7 calls, .389 per game Josh Allen: 11 games, 2 calls, .182 per game (both in 2020) Nobody else has over .150 per game, average appears to be closer to .120, maybe .140. so he is effectively 2.5x more likely to get a RtP call."

If I had to do a "blame pie" Stroud gets the majority imo. He had next to zero pocket presence or urgency after that great 3rd Q drive. Every drive, he was patting the ball waiting and waiting. Now maybe Spags had everyone locked up down field all game, but I doubt it. And the coaches should have adjusted to help him out when he was getting killed drive after drive.

So the offensive collapse in Houston is McD’s collapse, yes?

Two things can be very true. The Chiefs can be beneficiaries of bad calls close to the tops of the league, particularly in high exposure or high leverage games. Fans that hate the Chiefs hyperfixate on those calls because they hate the Chiefs. The Pats used to get a bunch of garbage calls with Brady and co too. It’s the way the league operates. Reputation influences the refs like everyone else. It’s why Sauce Gardener getting a rep of being a shut down corner led to refs sticking their flags in their pockets early and often. It’s why Jerry Hughes would get flagged for celebrating with his team mates or whatever BS they could drum up. It’s why Josh and Mahomes get flags when they get looked at funny. I don’t blame the Chiefs for trying to get calls. I hate them for it because they are a rival team but I don’t blame them. And I love when Josh does it because it does affect the game. If the Bills get out of this weekend, the Chiefs game next week will be pretty fairly called imo, because we have a team with a closer perception to KC than any other in the league. The Texans don’t.

Aren’t you a big “the HC gets all the credit and blame because it’s all his responsibility?” guy? If so, McD collapsed because the offense was terrible in the second half, the moment was too big for Josh and co, they were playing wild and out of control and puked all over themselves after a first half shut out in a game that they should have probably won. I know it’s fun to say “it was Josh and offenses” fault, not McD’s!” when it’s convenient, but it’s not really honest work imo.

That’s true but there’s a corollary. A toolsy guy like Rousseau may take a couple years to hit his stride, but if he does, you have no problem giving him a massive deal. It’s the limited ceiling, good or solid but not great, guys that you let walk or risk overpaying dramatically for their impact. To me, I would much rather bet on the upside over the floor. I think stars win games in the NFL. There’s a place for drafting role players too, and once you get to the late rounds it’s a complete crapshoot anyway. It’s not about age like it is for running backs though. It’s partly about ceiling. Every QB needy team in the NFL doesn’t want the next Dak or Goff or Cousins. They want the next Josh or Mahomes type guy. I think that’s not a bad desire to have, but it’s not realistic. Those guys come around every 10 years. There’s still a true line of QB’s that are worth paying.

Seriously. i mean Bo Nix wasn’t just undraftable at Auburn. He wasn’t “invite to camp” worthy imo. Part of it is marrying his skillset in a system like Payton’s. He’s being maximized to a degree and his ceiling is probably not that high. I don’t think he is going to be HoF bound. But if you told me back in 2019 he would lead an NFL team to 10 games and a WC appearance as a rookie, I wouldn’t have believed you for a second.

to your point, imo, Jayden and Nic had zero chance in the NFL if they were 2 or 3 year guys in college. i said this pre draft and I’ll say it again. Their success is a complete referendum on how wrong the league views and develops QBs.

Dude yes. I drafted him in a deep sleeper league like 3 years ago just waiting for him to take over as a #2 in Washington. He has finally put something together. I don't have a clue what his market will be. I wouldn't touch him for Curtis Samuel money.

I would prefer a coach who doesn’t completely ***** up an easy end of game situation over one who does and has to take the blame. Personally.

It’s because Josh Allen is so good, Mahomes rises to the occasion. some folks actually believe this.