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1. That doesn't really respond to anything I said. They are drafting WR's for him. They keep demanding trades because he doesn't get them the ball. They couldn't get Davante Adams. They probably couldn't get Diggs and outbid us (and why would they when their QB is his MVP season threw to his #2 WR 46 times on the YEAR.) 2. Oh, so anyone could do it, that's your argument? lmao You know Greg Roman was the OC for the Ravens during LJ's MVP year as well, right? Like you don't get to pretend that year didn't happen. And And Tyrod has never looked good anywhere except the Bills. Neither did Kaep. Both those dudes aren't close to LJ's level either, but Roman + a player like Lamar ended up getting him an MVP, instead making a backup look like a starter. That's partly Roman.

1. That's easy to say, less easy in practice. Diggs was traded for the 22nd pick, just after Lamar had won MVP and had a historic season. Hard to blame the Ravens for not breaking the bank to outbid the Bills when they had just drafted a WR in the first round the year prior and they looked pretty good already. Davante and Tyreek were both available in the offseason that LJ was entering his fifth year, looking to be paid with the biggest QB contract guarantees in history. You think the Ravens should have traded something like a 1st and a 2nd and make that WR the highest paid in the NFL with a QB who may not be playing their next year? Or a QB that they may not be able to afford? Does the Raiders future look bright with Davante catching balls from Jarrett Stidham next year? Furthermore, WIDE RECEIVERS DON'T WANT TO PLAY WITH HIM. We traded for AB. He said I'd rather retire. We tried to trade for Diggs in 19. He told his agent no way am I going to Buffalo. Davante didn't want to go to the Ravens. He was never going to go there. 2. Greg Roman is legitimately the best OC in the NFL for a player of Lamar's skillset. He made Tyrod and Kaep look like starting QBs in the NFL. Have you seen what they've done without Roman? Somehow, Roman got a terrible rap because Tyrod sucked. Imagine thinking Roman was a terrible OC, and KNOWING that Tyrod is a career backup bum, and somehow explaining the Bills having a top 10 offense in 2016?

Lol Sammy has the least rope in the NFL to talk about this crap. What's funny though is last year I thought the way LJ's year ended was weird. He had a bone bruise, the team was very tight-lipped on his status, and the season ended with a whimper. I made a topic about it. Now history repeats itself, and you start here rumors about how he doesn't rehab with the team and leaves them in the dark etc.

DIGGS DIDN'T ALWAYS want to come to Buffalo. The Bills first contacted the Vikings about the wide receiver's availability prior to the trade deadline in 2019. Appearing on linebacker Von Miller's podcast last month, Diggs said he told his agent he did not want to be traded to Buffalo at the time. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34986962/how-trading-stefon-diggs-became-massive-win-win-bills-vikings

That's one way to look at it. The other way to look at it is that some dude who isn't even that good of a WR wanted to be anywhere but Baltimore as the #1 WR in a contract year. If you were Gabe Davis, the Ravens would be slightly more appealing than maybe Carolina and Atlanta as an FA. That's a huge deal. Even Diggs didn't want to come to Buffalo until AFTER 2019. AB straight up said I'd retire rather than go there.

Let's do a playoff WR draft check. Since 2019, when Lamar was the "guy," the Ravens have drafted 2 first round WR's. Let's look at the rest of the playoff teams. The Bills have drafted zero. The Chiefs drafted zero. The Bengals drafted 1 first round WR. The Vikings drafted 1 first round WR. The Eagles drafted 2 first round WR's. The 49ers drafted 1 first round WR. The Dolphins drafted 1 first round WR. How many of those dudes demanded a trade? 1. Do you think it's POSSIBLE that, yes, the Ravens do not have the best WR group in the NFL and ALSO that LJ is a reason for that as well? This isn't a Rodgers situation. 2 first rounders at WR in 4 years is a lot. Even the Eagles got one wrong in Jalen Reagor. ' They don't want to play with this dude. WR's hit the market and they know the Ravens are where WR's go to die.

How many WR's have demanded trades from franchise QB's where they are the undisputed #1?

Hahaha very true. Coaches and executives don't fit that mold. Somewhere in the world, Chiefs fans and 49ers fans a lighting up their GM and HC because of something stupid though. I think that's universal.

Lamar's wideouts keep demanding trades.

You went to all this trouble of making a topic and you couldn't look up if Mahomes has been in the league 5 years or six?

We don't talk about it but the Bills got sneaky lucky that he was banged up in 2020 and battling that hamstring. Probably drove down his value a decent bit and he returned to form just after that year.

TBD does not debate stars or superstars. They debate guys at a lower level. We debate guys like Kelsay, Whitner, Byrd, Watkins. We don't debate Josh, Fred, Kyle Williams, Tre, Hyde, Poyer.

The players/coaches/fans popularity contest still didn't see it. Milano wasn't even a ProBowler. All-Pro has always mattered more in player circles and HoF voting etc. Your opinion is your opinion.

Cody Ford was *this* close to getting a vote per my sources in Arizona. Josh almost led the league in picks and had a stretch of a couple games riddled with some head scratching plays. The standard being "third in All-Pro voting" in a relatively not historically insane year is pretty good.

Lmao took the national media 5 years to see that our best LBer isn't the top 16 pick, but the fifth rounder from Boston College. You're entirely wrong about which matters more lol.

Draft impact positions high too. Draft players you will pay to keep if they make a ProBowl once in their rooke contract. Which includes EDGE/CB/WR/OT only. Drafting an OG in the first is just as bad as drafting a RB unless he's the best in the league. And even then.....

Most players aren't watching AD all year. How many times has Josh Allen watched AD tape this year? Once. Before week one.

He has a great reputation. He didn't have a great year. Brady is an All-Time QB. He didn't deserve to make the list either.

Correct, which is why it's silly that he's on this list.

74th in the NFL in sacks. 85th in QB hits. 38th in TFL's. Sounds like the best DT in football this year to me lmao.

All it takes is one. "For too long, we as NFL players have allowed everyone else to define the best of us. That ends now," NFLPA president J.C. Tretter wrote in an email to players, per the NFL Network. This was a way for the NFL players to try to have their own list to compete with the AP due to "bias." And then they put AD on their and killed their own point in its crib.

Nah they did the exact same thing they always complain about. Putting AD on the list is stupid and based solely on reputation. Good to know they are no better than the AP

lol. lmao. Bills will be up 7-3 in the first Q and these folks will be screaming about how 'we took them too lightly" on our way to a 38-6 romping.

No one ranks offense by “being denied 2 drives.” However, most people don’t include ST or defensive TD’s in offensive production

I’m not sure two kick returns count as offense.