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So QB wins is a bad stat, but RB wins isn't? I'll let you continue to embarrass yourself

You know it was the first non losing season of Barkley’s career, right?

Wow we shouldn’t have drafted Josh in the first because Brady was a sixth round pick!

Cut down in his prime by the rule changes. @HOUSE was a thumper in a passing league.

One plays the most important position in sports. The other plays a position moderately more valuable than special teamers. It’s criminal that Taiwan Jones is the best kick off coverage guy in football and he makes less than Saquon!

Dalvin time

In an ABSOLUTE heartbeat. Cole Beasley with working legs. Please.

Taiwan Jones made $12M in a 12 year career. Saquon has already made $38M in a 5 year career.

Every position is fixed by the cap and the draft. Why are punters, STers and RB’s at the bottom?

Increasing the number of cheap rookie RB’s would just prevent even more vet RB’s from making money as FAs. Did anyone in here take economics? ”How do we increase demand? Increase supply of course!” Like I said, he’s just trying to grandstand and make this some kind of “workers vs the bourgeoise” thing.

I gotta be honest, I was really nervous about the future of the TBD franchise. Just when the Bills finally became good again, we lost @thebandit27 to early retirement and @Kirby Jacksonwho had a big retire unretire Floyd Mayweather saga. @NoSaint started posting less. Turbo and Greg got tossed Even @Doc and @Mr. WEO were only arguing across 3-4 threads instead of their usual 10. It was a dark time in TBD history. But we have seemed to have come through to the other side.

The Jets have had a ROUGH history with drafting WR’s. They finally got a good one in Wilson but prior to, they had a drought Bills-like run.

Not hypocrites, he’s not good enough.

Sorry, I meant 2024. Potential Out: 2025, 2 yr, $82,000,000; $18,000,000 dead cap

No bro. That's wrong. Pretty much all of the players are trying to get as much money as they can whenever they can all the time. That's what you clearly don't understand. Daniel Jones didn't take a bargain contract because he was drafted top 10 and made a lot of money. He took as much money as he could get. Sam Bradford got a GIGANTIC contract as a rookie, did he take $8M per season after that because he made his money? No. If Saquon made an extra 10-20M on his entry contract, he would still be pissed about getting tagged and want more money. You are trying to paint this idyllic picture of a way to make everyone happy and that's just not reality. The reality of the cap and the reality of position value will always exist. It's the reality of the league. It's not perfectly fair and it doesn't pretend to be. Sometimes, players take a crappier deal then explode (like Diggs). Sometimes players overperform, get a massive deal, and suck. None of that is "fair" either. It is reality. You could do that if you wanted less RB's to get drafted in top 3-4 rounds than they already are. Even decreasing an RB's rookie contract to 3 years would drastically decrease their value as draft picks. Not to mention every other position besides RB would say no ***** way. Who the NFLPA also works for.

I'm not sure what you mean. You have no evidence for this. You have vet RB's coming out in droves arguing that VET RBs should be paid more. No one is arguing Bijan Robinson should be paid more. Except you. “This is Criminal,” 49ers back Christian McCaffrey shared. “Three of the best PLAYERS in the entire league, regardless of position.” Is he talking about Bijan and Gibbs? NOPE. “It’s nothing that we’re doing wrong,” Sanders said on the Rich Eisen Show. “We’re doing everything that we have to do as far as on the field and stuff like that. For people and GMs or owners to think that running backs are not as valued as much is a lie because you’ve got to see how everything plays out. You’ve got to see what guys like Christian McCaffrey, the stuff he does, things that Saquon Barkley (does), the things that Josh Jacobs (does) consistently each year. … Ah yes, Christan McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley and Josh Jacobs, all notable rookie players who want the rookie scale increased. Lmao.

Holy smokes bro. Do you not understand the vets do not want ROOKIES to make more money. The older players HATED that AP got a massive deal before he took a snap. Allowing RB's to make more money on their rookie deals WILL HURT players like Barkley and Jacobs.

7 of the 8 top receivers last season made the playoffs lol. 8 of the top 9.

Nah, they cut him after 2025 and he's only getting $81M total for 2 years. If he puts up 22-25 TD's per season over the next two years, that's a little less than $2M a TD.

Do you just want to grandstand here? You admit they are not a valuable position. You're right that they don't make much compared to their peers. But they also don't have to play in the NFL. If the owners' unilaterally decided tomorrow to increase the cap $10M, RB's would still get paid peanuts because they are WORTH peanuts.

I think they all have potential to look REALLY bad, but I think Jones has the potential to be the least crippling because they can get out the year after next, and their roster is so bad that one more year at his price tag won’t be as prohibitive.

The NFLPA argued for the rookie scale contract because they didn’t like vets getting out paid by rookies. Any system designed to increase RB pay scale artificially is going to impact every other position negatively by decreasing their money. So that will never ever happen. The NFLPA works for all the players, not just RB’s. Christian McCaffrey ain’t arguing that centers need to get paid more. just like punters, if you wanna get those $100M contracts, you better be involved in passing or stopping the pass. If you can’t, you’re probably not gonna make as much.

It's not a big deal to have a top flight RB. Because they aren't valuable.

Highest paid positions are ones that are based on either passing or stopping the pass. it's why ILB's who can't cover have gone the way of the dinosaur. It's why nickel DB's are paid way more than they used to be. If the punters all wanted to get together and said change the rules so we are more valuable, they are welcome to do so, but the reality is that they are not that valuable TODAY.

Top 8 backs don't win Superbowls. Only 4/8 made the playoffs. 7 of the top 8 QB's in passing made the playoffs and one of them won it.