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He actually sucked last year. Tell me you don’t watch the games without telling me you don’t watch the games.

Just once, I’d love to see a GM be like “yeah, we missed out on one of our targets so we took this dude because we needed a CB.”

This is correct. Elam was 100% available for anything of value. A conditional 7th if he makes it through camp next year is completely worthless at this point. And so here he remains.

Rasul Douglas

But the cap space

Desperation to show improvement this season. Their FO and coaching staff are not safe if they are picking in the top 2 again.

Gilmore and Lorax would be the only two guys that would start on this roster currently, no? Maybe the younger versions of the safety duo? McCoy was rapidly aging out, the OL was mediocre. The receiving options were disasters. To me, if they can Jauron Ball their way to making the playoff as a tiebreaker on the last play of the season, they aren’t that talented by definition. Gilmore and Lorax would be the only two guys that would start on this roster currently, no? Maybe the younger versions of the safety duo? McCoy was rapidly aging out, the OL was mediocre. The receiving options were disasters. To me, if they can Jauron Ball their way to making the playoff as a tiebreaker on the last play of the season, they aren’t that talented by definition.

Counterpoint to none of our first round picks mattering is that the 2017 roster was a bare bones disaster that was lucky to limp in.

Mr Big Puff playing for the opposition?

One WR would be banking on a productive rookie WR starting immediately on a team trying to contend for a Super Bowl. Not really a great plan for me.

Injured CB1 too, don’t forget. Part of me just thinks, in Beane’s mind, he would be a lot more confident to pull the trigger if we weren’t so decimated on the defense.

Gabe is of low value to the Raiders because they would likely not be interested in paying him big money while dealing with Davantes’ dead hit. I would rather trade picks and stockpile offensive talent. Gabe has more value to us, even as an admittedly limited player than the Raiders. 11 personnel with Diggs, Adams, Davis Kincaid would be filthy.

Let’s start with the basics, how much is Davante due this season? And how much has he already been paid?

Beane is in a tough spot due to the amount of injuries on defense; it’s hard to peg this as our year to go “all in.” I’ve been telling folks for years that the Rams taught us a lesson, but I’m not sure they chase Von that SB run if Ramsey and Donald were hurt and out for the year. It’s crappy timing and I understand the hesitancy. I, personally, don’t care. If I was the GM, I say to hell with it, let’s try to score 40 every game and hope the defense rounds into form and take our shot. the AFC is a wounded beast this season. There’s also a psychological aspect. Trading for Adams invigorates the locker room IMO. Guys start getting excited again, rather than feeling like this season is another slow march to a playoff exit. I say they pull the trigger and don’t look back.

I would give a first and a second for Adams.

Yes we can. This is just not true.

Davante Adams rn

I didn't even realize Marcus Peters was still in the league.

2 1sts and Deonte Harty (he was an All Pro!)

In fairness, there were a lot of people who loved Edmunds in Bills land. they have disappeared and walk among us in shadow now. But we will never forget. They spent two day two picks on linebackers in the last 2 years? How is that “little?”

I remember praising the HELL out of Young and Elway for playing poorly all game, turning it on for the last five minutes, and losing anyway. Got them to the HoF, imo.

I use late game 4th production indicative of defense quality too. Shout out the clutch Jordan Poyer keeping the Allen MVP dream alive. He has more TD’s than all of them. 1 turnover less in the Jets or the Pats and we probably win both games. Both are true. Arm punt interceptions are still interceptions. He threw lots vs the Jets.

Just wondering.

Agreed, but if we can't even be competitive, the chance of winning any of the others drops dramatically. Some of these teams look beateable against other top teams, we have to start playing like the top teams.

Did you think the Miami game was a poorly coached effort? No, we are not. We lost a lot of key pieces. I still contend that it WAS our biggest game, and we WERE pretty well prepared and played really well.