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So if I remember reading correctly Poyer was leading the fan vote, so this came down to the player and coach vote. The guys who got in over him got in because of name recognition. Even amongst players and coaches that’s going to be a big thing. It’s ironic to see Simmons make it as you watch him get turned around about 6 times on Motor’s touchdown the other day. I will admit I have a huge bias against Fitzpatrick, I think he has benefitted GREATLY behind that defensive line (he wasn’t that food playing in Miami) and just haven’t watched enough of Matthieu to know anything about him this season

So I think Hill gets it over Diggs simply because he brings attention to himself. He does a lot of stupid things on the field (for example, the backflips into the end zone, the peace sign as he is about to score, etc) but this season has been able to back it up with touchdown receptions. The voters don't think this way but they should - would Hill have even close to as many touchdowns and splash plays if he didn't play on the same team as Kelce and Mahomes? You certainly have to account for his speed and my Bills homerism is certainly playing into this but I think Diggs has done more and deserves the first team all pro more than Hill

People get penalized all the time for doing their jobs well...they get more work piled on, they are given more responsibilities (all with your boss's expectations of not giving you a raise or a promotion). Getting penalized for doing your job well is not something that is new, and not something that applies just to sports This is only true because his division is terrible. If he was in another division with that record his team would already be eliminated

Yeah but do we really want to create a QB controversy???

If Josh takes less, it’s not going to be significantly less and it shouldn’t be. It’s not up to Josh to put together a competitive team, that’s up to the front office. We need to stop using Brady as the example. Just because Mahomes, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc signed big contracts does not mean they weren’t team oriented guys. If you ever listen to players around the league, they never want guys to take less money. Fans are always screaming for guys to take less money but let’s be honest, I fan truly understands how the salary cap works-if they did they would be working for an NFL team. Let Josh get paid every dollar he can get and let the front office guys do their job and structure these contracts so the players can get paid

So is the premise because he has better stats or because the Bills aren’t a ground and pound team, they throw the ball more? If the Bills go on the road it’s not like they are likely to go play in a dome or in nice weather. KC, Pittsburgh, Tennessee (while not terrible not an ideal place to go play in January) so I’m not really understanding why anyone would want them to play away games...doe that incredibly slim chance they might get to play Indy in their dome for one game then have to go on the road to cold weather cities after that?

Like I said I know that I am nitpicking, my point is Kelce is so much more than a security blanket-he runs every route possible, he goes deep, he does everything...I just think that Kelce was the wrong example to use when it was said that Josh doesn’t need a guy to go deep or be a playmaker-that’s exactly what Kelce is. I guess it all comes down to what you think a security blanket is-to me, Kelce is so much more than a security blanket, that’s all I was trying to say and probably shouldn’t pick the best or second best tight end in the league as the example

Sorry I know that I'm nitpicking, but are you calling Kelce nothing more than a security blanket for Mahomes? The guy who leads the entire league in receiving yards (as a tight end no less) is much more than a security blanket....should probably think of a different tight end than Kelce if you're looking for just a security blanket. If he's not the top tight end in the league, he's a very close second to Kittle

I don’t think you understand how this works-for some of these blowhards when they same someone is playing bad you are only allowed to count the bad games and take other ones (like the New England game) completely out of context. I’m pretty sure this Nick Wright guy believes Josh has had 3 really bad games and then like 10 lucky ones

The Steelers also have one of the biggest fan bases in the league

They showed him doing it at one point during the game, he did it during warm ups...and in typical Collinsworth fashion, he talked about how much he loved that and how can you not like their wide receiver group, blah blah blah

But but but....hot takes!!!!

Home is NEVER a disadvantage. It’s not just the game, it’s everything up until the game. You know how the field plays better, you don’t have to travel and stay in a hotel-there’s a ton of reasons why you want home field advantage, even in a season like this with no fans

So I think this is where the national narrative is a pain. Someone could read your statement and think that the only reason why the Bills have a shot is because the Steelers have injuries. That may or may not be exactly what you’re saying. I only say this because an earlier thread this week talked about this being the biggest win of the season and how the Bills need a signature win, but if the Bills win because the Steelers have so many guys out, then the discussion is still “yeah the Bills have all these wins, but...” almost kind of how people are now looking at all of the Steelers wins. pwrsonally I think the Bills have a great shot of winning and still would have a great shot of winning even if all of those guys weren’t injured. And no, I don’t care about the national narrative, but it does get a little old after a while

I’ll give it to you that Pittsburgh getting their bye much earlier in the season definitely sucks for them, but Buffalo’s situation through their whole ordeal was worse. At least Pittsburgh knew who they were going to play-the Bills had to prepare for two teams at the same time, one of them being the Super Bowl champions! Definitely no sympathy for Pittsburgh at all-they still got their bye, just much earlier than they planned

I think I’m on board with this, and would probably rank Josh above Mahomes. Don’t get me wrong Mahomes is great and is a special talent, but to be honest at times I have been underwhelmed by him. Every QB misses throws, but I have seen him miss some pretty easy throws very badly. He had one to Hardman a couple of weeks ago where there was broken coverage and Hardman was WIDE open and would’ve gone for like an 85 yard touchdown, but Mahomes’s throw wasn’t even close to him. I do think it is easier for him to put up the stats he does because of the amount of talent he is able to throw to. It will be I retesting to see what he has to throw to in a couple of years when his contract fully kicks in. But this is why I would put Rodgers and Allen above him. They have to carry their offenses. I’m not sure that Mahomes has to do as much heavy lifting as those 2 do

Why does one need more credit than the other? Why isn't both a choice? Sorry, questions like this bother me because we have this need to feed people's egos. They both do their jobs really well, that's why the team is having so much success

Go back and read your own post, yes you did. All I'm saying is you are using a ton of hindsight to make your argument....do you also still crush the Bills because they didn't pick Mahomes or Brady?

This is a trade that has worked out for both sides - Jefferson has played really well in Minnesota, but right now it's still hard to make a comparison in my opinion. Diggs has been the focal point since day one here. Jefferson has not faced many double teams until very recently. Diggs has been getting the other team's top corner more often than Jefferson. You can't deny that Diggs ability (along with Allen's improvement) has completely changed the offense here. I'm confused by your statement saying Jefferson has won more games than Diggs though

I'm just hoping the Steelers aren't wearing their bumblebee uniforms! Those to me are the worst uniforms in all of sports

Well he has thrown less interceptions than Josh Allen this year.....

You're making your argument based off of this year's stats and claiming you find it laughable that people wanted to get rid of him or give competition for him based off of last year. Last year he was not very good - he has obviously improved from last year to this year which is great, but you are using an extreme amount of hindsight against the people who wanted him to have some competition for training camp this year. If you look at his stats last year (and watch the games) the Bills needed to bring in competition and there should have been calls to cut him. He obviously showed very early in camp that he had improved greatly which is why the other punters were cut so early. Just saying that it's quite lazy on your part to use this year's stats against people who wanted him cut or have competition for his job before this season began. Now if the same complaints come up before next season, then you will be fully supported in using this year's stats

Oh riiiiiiiiiight, why didn’t the Bills think to look at this years stats during last offseason when they were trying to make a decision about Bojo. This idiots based their decision to being in competition for him off of how he performed last year! If you could please show the Bills front office how to use next years stats and performance for the upcoming draft, we would all really appreciate it

I’m not disagreeing with what you’re saying, the point I’m trying to make is let’s not make it seem like guys before steroids weren’t cheating, that’s all. I also don’t understand why baseball players get crushed for using PEDS but football players get caught using PEDS all the time and they aren’t vilified nearly as bad. I don’t care that football is more physical, doesn’t give them a pass for using PEDS, the hardest thing to do in sports is hit a baseball-steroids don’t help with your hand eye coordination all that being said, would’ve been really nice to see Griffey Jr stay healthy his entire career

This is not to say Aaron cheated at all, but to make it seem like guys years ago didn’t find ways to cheat is naive. I can pretty much guarantee you there are cheaters in the hall of fame from the 50’s-80’s. It’s also interesting that guys who use steroids in baseball are vilified and seen as absolute villains, but NFL players get caught using PED’s and it’s barely mentioned for more than a day and they get a 4 week suspension