Simon

If you don't like it, don't read it. But people do need a place to talk about it and if we can manage to keep it all in one thread it will improve the overall quality of the rest of the board.

This is BS; we have no idea yet if most of that is actually true.

Suggesting that a teenage girl who was bloody and bruised and who immediately reported being gang-raped to multiple people was simply "having sex with other men" is the definition of ignorant. If you can't recognize that and continue to double down on your disgusting take, you have way bigger issues than being potentially tossed off an internet message board. I've got to get up at 6:30 and go to work so I am signing off; I suggest you do the same in case I'm tired and cranky with an itchy banning finger in the morning.

Abusing my powers would have been tossing you for personal reasons instead of giving you multiple opportunities to retract your ignorant statement.

Do you understand that you referred to those gruesome injuries has "having sex with other men"?

Being patient can be very difficult at times.

Do you understand that at least two other men are being accused of violent rape? Did you see the pictures of her damaged throat and blood-stained clothes?

Did you see the pics of her damaged throat and her blood-stained clothes? Do you understand that there are more people than Araiza being accused? Do you realize that you just equated her being violently gang-raped to her "having sex" with other men? Do you understand yet why you are on the verge of being suspended?

I'm referring to locking out your account.

This is what you said about "after Araiza": Woman then has sex with other men the same night after him. Do you understand why I want to punt you out an airlock right now?

I know you don't have a filter and are often lacking in the ability to read the room, but this would be an excellent time for you to stow that ignorant ***** about a teenage girl covered in blood with bruises all over her throat.

Yes

I believe her claim was that she was raped, not that she had sex with other men. If you can't differentiate between the two, you might as well just show yourself to the door right now.

I was referring to your insinuation that she "had sex with multiple other men" when visual evidence seems to show she was violently assaulted.

I don't think we need second hand confirmation to safely conclude that is the case.

Can you can work the bruises, ripped out body jewelry and blood-stained clothing in there too? Or do you just really need to check yourself real quick?

I have zero legal experience so that kind of strikes me as a distinction without a difference, at least in a legal sense.

It's thin

I can't confirm it's correct but this is from the Shouse law group in California : In some states, mistake of age is an affirmative defense. In others, it is not. Contrary to the law in some states, mistake of age is not an affirmative defense in California.[8] This means that the defendant does not have the burden of proving their mistake of age defense. Instead, the prosecutor has to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the defendant did not reasonably and actually mistaken the alleged victim’s age.

I am on board with all of this but am pretty uncomfortable with the allegation he had unprotected sex with her while knowing he had chlamydia. That's pretty ***** up.

I was thinking less about the legal implications and more about the wide variety of potential moral ones.

Please don't drag this into other threads or it will take over the entire board.

I hadn't seen any specifics re: the location. It wasn't Araiza's room?

Maybe he did; or maybe she asked for a place to sleep it off, he took her to his room and then a couple of dirtbags came in later and raped her and he wasnt around or had no idea what was happening. Only a few people really know at this point.