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Another one. Yes, then, of course he was lying to all of us because the outcome didn’t meet your suspicions. When the know-it-alls are right? “Called it, told y’all.” When the know-it-alls are wrong? “He’s obviously lying. My vast experience of sitting on my couch watching football and trolling message boards proves this.”

Not gonna get all involved in whatever head canon is going on inside your brain. Yeah sure, I’m naive. Just going off what the guy said chief. He’s known as one of the more upfront GMs in the league. Meanwhile your mind has been made up long before this trade deadline came and went, even though you have NO IDEA, no real information about what went down behind the scenes on those calls. 🍻

https://x.com/mattparrino/status/1719802968835309648?s=46&t=rG8S37R56ISI2zmCE2WlYQ appears it wasn’t so obvious after all.

Jesus. Once again, I do not know if Elam was on the market or not, no matter the price. I did not adhere to either of those opinions, so I’m not contradicting myself. All I said was there were factors supporting both and the OP’s contention that “Obviously they were trying to trade Elam” was not obvious at all. And if you believe Perrino’s report today, Elam was not on the market or being shopped. He may or may not be right, but it certainly shows nothing about Elam’s standing with Beane and the team was “obvious.” Then you jumped in and presented your literacy level for all here to see, so I’ll leave it at that.

Probably because you’re not a paranoiac

It’s not

Yeah they probably put him on the injury report week 7 and 8 just to cover their butts right? They’re just making up injuries, right?

I’m not dodging anything. I don’t know the answer, for certain. That’s the difference here - you think you know things you don’t, for certain. If your strawman is “does the desire to move player X increase if the compensation goes up” then yeah sure. agreed. Quite an insight.

You have no idea how NFL teams operate. The statement that his current trade value is low is matter-of-fact. It was not implied that it is prohibitive to a trade if Beane really wanted to move him and was motivated to do so today, which he didn’t. It’s simply a possible factor that might weigh into the decision. Seriously, the percentage of what random fans *think* they know for certain about team decision-making, when they don’t know squat, to what they can actually state with accuracy is probably something like 95%-5%. Around this place it’s probably closer to 99%-1%. Even the so-called experts and “pro” rumor mongers on social media, with presumed actual contacts around the league, don’t bat anywhere close to 1.000. But yeah let’s also listen to Mr. FireChans here and they’ll lecture us on “how the league works.” Pfff.

not sure how you pulled the bold from what I said, I didn’t imply that at all. And Elam being inactive so many weeks =/= “he was on the market.” There are other, valid reasons for landing on the inactive list. His level of play/practice habits being the most obvious. That doesn’t mean they are willing or eager to trade him at this stage. Again, similar to the OP, you’re stating your assumptions as fact.

My opinion is there was nothing “obvious” surrounding the Elam situation as it stands today. There were factors, no. 1 being his play up to now, that suggested the team may try to move him. There are other factors, his draft status being no. 1, that suggested the team is nowhere close to giving up on him, especially when his trade value right now is pretty much bottomed out.

I guess you feel that YOUR opinions can’t be challenged/questioned? That’s the only reason I see for this little fit. Yes, many local and some national football pundits thought the Bills might try to trade Elam. You turned that into “OBVIOUSLY the team tried to trade him.” Bit of reach, no? That’s why you were questioned but I guess you can’t handle that.

Are you seriously suggesting his leadership is a negative?

Do we even know if any substantial moves were possible? No we do not.

you have no idea who he is.

Like most Packers fans…

Not a big football fan huh?

If ownership had given coaches of color a fair shake all along this compensatory system would never have come about. So tough.

Seems sorta par for the course for talk radio callers.

Lol. Another “I’ve had 8 beers and I’m an athlete psychiatrist now” thread.

How many championships has Jim won? And Michigan isn’t “under attack” they’re under investigation, for good reason.

I’m 100% on board with this. Shakir has earned a bigger role in what has turned into a busted offense. He and Kincaid should be the 2 and 3 options (alongside Cook). Park Knox on the bench or in the OL to block. everyone on this team lacks YAC. Not that some of them can’t produce it, that’s a OC issue.

It ain’t the wrist. It’s his (lack of) hands. Honestly I don’t blame casual fans for thinking this guy is good, given the contract he was gifted. But he ain’t. teach Kincaid how to block a little, or don’t, get a solid blocking TE if they really want to run 12 all the time, and get this guy off the team. Belicheck would take him in a second he collects tight ends like 35 year old girlfriends. 4th or 5th options are safety valves and unfortunately Knox isn’t even good enough to be that.

I am just waking up and don’t have the exact numbers but Knox had an abysmal catch rate his rookie season and made a big jump from that sophomore year (not a high bar to clear, though.) He did even better after that and got paid what appears to be a laughable contract, even before Kincaid was drafted. edit: drops are notoriously not tracked well but fox sports has him at this, worse than his rookie season: https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/dawson-knox-player-stats?category=receiving&seasonType=reg

same thing that was wrong with him rookie season - no hands. I’m not going to destroy the guy and say he has nothing to offer, he does. He’s a good blocking TE with plus running ability. But he’s extremely limited as a pass catcher because he can’t be relied upon. Hands just aren’t there. They’ll never be there. And they gave him a boat load of money. honestly I was surprised he held on to the 2 pt try.