Mikie2times

Prior to Art Briles Baylor competed with Kansas as the worst team in the Big 12. Briles tenure ended with a sexual assault scandal that left the program in shambles. All coaches and the AD were dismissed. Most of the team left. That is what Matt Rhule inherited. Scott Frost inherited a UCF program that had a history of winning for over a decade in a softer conference. They happened to be coming off the worst year they had in program history. For Baylor, losing was just normal until Art Briles and RG3. Frost coached two whole years at UCF, with one exceptional season then proceeded to become the laughing stock of the Big 10. The literal pinnacle of ineptitude. While Rhule restored Baylor back to the level Briles had built in a major conference. Rhule should have never got the NFL job. Almost none of these NFL jobs work out for the CFB guys. But Frost failed once he reached the level Rhule already succeeded in. It's not a comparison to me. It's not as if Nebraska wasn't a talented team.

Is that you Lamar?

He was running out to celebrate. He ran on the field when the player was down on the ground, but not ruled down. Up until NFL, he is down. Shocked this hasn't happened more. I think when he realized he was on the field he chose the second pill instead of the first.

They're good. I wish that wasn't the case, but they have the greatest play making WR in the game, opposite him, a WR that is turning into a Top 10 player, if not already, at his position. Then a QB who plays within the system and does so effectively. With a coach who has the right system for his players. Then bring in a defense that is not a liability and can even make some plays. It doesn't really matter who they played the last 5. They're good, when healthy, we are better. Hopefully we can get healthy soon.

Crazy

I don't find what your saying unreasonable by any stretch. Again, he's just not what I want, but in a world where the best guys get paid the best (not this list) I would say around 10.

I don't think we watched the same game. He constantly bailed out of the play design. Couldn't do anything in the 4th quarter. Looked average. Which is what he is. I can name 15 QB's I would rather have, 10 in a landslide.

I wonder what it looks like outside of a Roman offense. I doubt he is going to get the Baltimore treatment somewhere else. IMO, it could look much worse, but what they're doing with him right now won't allow for things to get much better. We have seen the best the Ravens can be with Lamar and in that system. It's never going to progress or get better, nor is it ever going to be bad. Just not good enough. I don't want all these questions with a guy I need to pay 200 million dollars to. I don't want questions when I spend that type of money.

I wouldn't be in the market for him. This is a passing league. I don't care about the MVP or how athletic he is. He's got a ceiling over his head in how far he can take you and will decline more rapidly than just about any QB in the league.

The Ravens letting him walk will turn out to be a blessing long term.

Watson aside, I give the Browns major props for cutting ties with Baker and not allowing themselves to be at a crossroads near the end of a contract. They avoided what Arizona could not.

Russ was better than Kyler at the same age. Not as good an athlete but better QB skills. With Russ, I just don't think his style of play ages well. Not like Kyler's will either, Russ is just older. It is a bit ironic, with all this talk of Kyler not being a leader some have accused Russ of the same. Further, both QB's could have played major league baseball.

Sorry, but his height does hinder him. This isn't college. Just because he can run around like his head is cut off and find some throwing lanes, he does not possess the zip on the ball or the accuracy in the short and intermediate passing game. So he makes some plays once and awhile. He's a hell of an athlete, but his deficiencies limit him. Watching him is literally identical to watching Flutie. If he has issues between his ears outside of just lacking the skills to be a pro football QB than I don't know what to say. I wouldn't take him if you paid me.

After watching him get dismantled and quit on his team in the playoffs. Including a clause in his initial contract that required him to put in additional time studying. Then seeing his agent put out a public statement basically demanding a new contract. It looked awful as far as how it reflected on what's supposed to be the leader of your team. At the time all I could think of was he knew defenses were figuring him out and he did not want to play another year risking what damage would be done to his next contract. His leveraging, to my surprise, worked. I have no idea what Arizona was thinking. They had all of 2022 with a 2023 option. Instead they're on the hook for 230 million with 190 of it guaranteed. Watching this guy, I would be so disappointed if I was a Cardinal fan. Running around like this is arena ball just to float a wounded duck 15 yards. He just doesn't have NFL skills. Even in today's dual threat era, he doesn't have the skills to be successful. I think perhaps the greatest curse a team can fall victim to is paying a Franchise QB without really knowing for sure if he is. If I'm an NFL GM I have a rule in place. If my QB makes to the last year of his deal and I don't know for sure, move on. The risk of making the wrong decision in this spot will kill your franchise.

I would have to say yes

I was placing my wager on the Jets, first one went through at -6.5 -110, then I was doing a teaser and the second one kept updating before I could push it through. -6 -120, -7 -110, -7 -115, now -7.5 -110, I pushed it through at -7 -110 on a 7 point teaser. So I'm not a Peterman fan today. I remember dropping like 2k in live bets the year we played on the road against the Chargers. His infamous 4 INT performance. We know what we will get from him. Trent Edwards on steroids. Can he limit the mistakes? I hope he can do well long term so if he busts my bets against a divisional rival I'm not going to be too bent out of shape.

I'm going to get some Noxema, I'll be back in a couple of hours

Just saw our boy on this commercial. Is this the first national spot by a Bills player since Bruce?

She would not pass as a friend

Awhile back I remember a thread about the Patriots run basically clouding peoples judgement. Almost as if that run forever skewed the reality of what you expect from a team and coach. Which in large part I agree with. Andy Reid won the Super Bowl 1 time in 17 playoff appearances Pete Carrol won the Super Bowl 1 time in 10 playoff appearances John Harbaugh won the Super Bowl 1 time in 8 playoff appearances Mike McCarthy won the Super Bowl 1 time in 10 playoff appearances Sean Payton won the Super Bowl 1 time in 9 playoff appearances Mike Tomlin won the Super Bowl 1 time in 10 playoff appearances Sean McVay, Doug Pederson, Bruce Arians, and Bill Belichick have much different stories ranging from too soon to tell, to lightning in a bottle, and perhaps the best of all time. None really are good for context outside of maybe McVay. Those are your recent SB winning coaches. As much as I hate to see the data, it is overwhelming in how common it is to be a bridesmaid in this thing. Most SB winning coaches will experience 10 playoff losses for every one title. It's the SB lottery and you only increase your chances of hitting it by getting to the playoffs. Very logical, but not something I want to accept because OP, I feel you as far as often thinking McDermott can't take us the distance but most of them couldn't, until they did. It's just the way this thing tends to go.

He was an elite college coach at Baylor. It would be a huge upgrade for Nebraska. As for Rhule, not a bad program to go to. The Big Ten is more fun when Nebraska is good. If true I hope he can help turn things around. I never thought Frost would turn out as bad as he did after what he did with UCF.

I don't disagree with this. As for schematics, that's not what this thread is about. More game day coaching. I still think our schemes leaves a good deal to be desired. Although we ARE seeing pressure dialed up and the traditional running game, two missing pieces, we aren't seeing creativity on offense. How much we could install the last few weeks with our circumstances is likely low, but the playbook progression on offense is a question mark no doubt.

I'm more critical of McDermott than most. Plenty are critical of Frazier. Dorsey has been under the radar, but I think fans would give him a neutral mark on the season. In the game against Detroit, I really think this was one of the better coached games we have seen from the entire staff. On offense, we ran the ball in the traditional running game with frequency and success. This was now two weeks in a row we did not abandon the run and used it as a stabilizing factor. We were also aggressive late in the game. If you look at the throw to Diggs, you could make an argument to play conservative. We had 23 seconds to go 35 yards, any mistake and you likely lose. Josh had done almost nothing in the deep passing game the last two weeks and made some critical errors. We trusted our guys to go get it done. I think this is a play that will help Josh get back on track from a mental perspective. On defense, we have seen the level of aggressiveness increase as our DB play has declined which I'm thankful for. The death by a thousand cuts was getting torturous. In perhaps the most pivotal play of the game on the Lions last drive, 3rd down and 1, in a spot we always seem to be conservative, we went all in. We sent everybody and forced the Lions to execute. Far too often we seem to be in reactionary mode in that spot. The Lions had an open guy but failed to execute against our pressure. We forced a FG which allowed us to set up the eventual game winning FG. So while we love to torch our coaches, yesterday they beat the Lions coaches in time management and were not afraid to be aggressive. The did almost everything we complain about well. We even landed an elusive within 7 point victory. I think the coaches are learning and they played a big role in the W yesterday. Hopefully we see this trend continue.

I don't disagree, much in the way we have seen Diggs used this year. That is what I would also prefer vs going after a pure slot WR. In this layout, we go back to a place where Davis and even McKenzie have much more value. We just can't afford to waste the arm talent. Getting a high end compliment to Diggs would make this offense lethal.

I don't know how WR is not looked at pretty high in the upcoming draft. Perhaps with our #1. The lack of a pure slot WR has shown to really hurt. Davis made his money on go routes, skinny posts, deep shots, then toe tapping on Allen scramble drills. He does not have elite quickness or route running. He's not high end on 50/50 balls. Can he create on his own? The answer is no. We need at least one option outside of Diggs where that is a resounding yes.