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You got to actually give credit to the Lions... they put that old vase out there, got another vase back that's about the same, 2 first rounders and a third AND their new vase is much younger... 😆 If I'm Houston, take the 6 first rounds, laugh all the way to the bank.... tank next year, get the first pick in the draft and get your QB of the future...

Yikes! That is alot for 1 player. I guess it would really depend on the 'first first round pick' you get. Like in this year's class, if that first could get you any of the top 3 QBs in this draft, I think that would be good. OR if you have projected another Lawrence type QB in next years draft class and since Houston doesn't have Watson anymore, they could tank and get the 1st pick in the draft to get their QB. With value for QBs like this, teams should start drafting extra QBs all the time and just trade them away for the extra capital.

I agree with alot of what you said. Whenever these types of discussions come up I always wonder how much the Bills and other teams spend on scouting / player evaluation. Is it just a handful of guys/gals in a smoky room looking at tapes all day long? Do they have hundreds of ppl doing constant evaluation of college and current players, so they would be ready at a moments notice to give information/advice. Is it just the GM's gut instinct on the picks??? The amount of money spent on evaluation and coming up with a good process to evaluate players would go a long way to consistently picking good solid players in the draft. Which teams are good evaluators of talent??? I'm sure there are a handful of teams that are good at picking players... that's why they are good ALL the time. A constant influx of good talent. How a drafted player pans out and/or trading for a 'proven' veteran has ALOT of variables for if it is going to be successful or not. Look at the Diggs trade. Do you honestly believe that if Diggs was traded to the Jets last year that they would have drastically improved? I highly doubt that... then the trade would have been a bust. Diggs and Allen worked hard and made some great chemistry together, which hopefully goes for many years. If the draft really is just a crap shoot and 1st rounders are just a 50/50 proposition, they you should be trading down in almost every draft and stockpiling picks so you have more bullets to fire and 'hopefully' you can hit on some. More shots = more chances for success. Does that remind you of another franchise that we all hate that resides in our division??? I think to get a 'good' organization, you need the owner, GM, and coach in 'lock step' with many of the philosophies and how about building and maintaining a football team. If your GM wants a high octane offense and outscore opponents to win and the coach wants to be a defense first / ball control offense, that probably is not a good fit and will fail. You need a great plan to win at football because not every position will be filled with all pros. Some positions will be more valuable than others to the GM and coach. Kinda obvious, but the first and most critical factor is how good your QB is. If you have a Mahomes or Rodgers, they can mask alot of personnel problems with their superior play. While 'good' QB's need a good team to succeed and very rarely can a team win with a bad/not good QB unless it is stacked with talent everywhere else. As for the Rams and that trade, I'd give them a D for that trade and an A++ for the Lions. To give up 2 first's and give up Goff is truly mindboggling for Matt Stafford. I think I heard somewhere between the contracts of Donald, Stafford, Ramsey, Whitworth, and the dead money of Goff and Gurley, that will be over 50% of their cap next year. This is a huge gamble. The Rams defense will not be as good next year because they will not be able to sign their defensive free agents, so they will have to try and lean on the offense next year behind a pretty pedestrian OLIne (agree they had one of the best lines when they went to the Super Bowl and that is why their offense was successful). I'll end here because this is getting really long. If you made it this far, thanks for reading.

Each university is different, but this really isn't true. MOST athletic departments are separate from the educational part of the university. Or in other words the athletic departments are stand alone entities. Some universities subsidize the athletic department because most athletic departments break even or LOSE money. Only the 'cream of the crop' programs truly make any money (or income). Running a successful athletic department takes alot of money and stretching that money as well as you can.

Unless athletic departments are going to go into debt, the ripples of NO college football will be felt in all college sports. College Football and Men's Basketball are the only sports* that actually make money for the athletic department. Every other sport LOSES money. No income from Football will sink almost all women's sports. They will be cancelled for the fall and spring. The 'lesser' mens programs will also be cancelled. No college football will basically halt all sports for most athletic departments. * - There might be a couple of exceptions, but 99.99% of all income is from football and mens basketball.

If Tre wants to be in Buffalo, then I would prefer him to stay, BUT I think you also need to look at it. If you can get 2 #1 picks, #3 and #4 AND we would get a decent CB back. I think it really depends on where you think those #1's would be (1-32). If you think they would be in the Top 15, I think you seriously need to look at trading him.

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My list: 1) Dolphins 2) Patriots 3) Cowboys 4) Giants 5) Redskins 6) Jets 7) Whoever we are playing that week.

1) A much better way to do a draft of all NFL players as free agents would be an auction draft. Use the salary cap as how much you can spend in the draft and draft your players. Why should Cincinnati be the only club with the option to get Mahomes? 2) This draft was performed by a bunch of homers for each of the teams they cover. I think some of them might have gotten confused with the final rule, "Each GM was asked to draft with intentions of winning a Super Bowl within five years." 3) Terrible 1st Round Picks if you are starting a NEW franchise. 6. L.A. Chargers: Ronnie Stanley, OT 8. Arizona: Drew Brees, QB 12. Las Vegas: Aaron Rodgers, QB 14. Tampa Bay: Tom Brady, QB 16. Atlanta: Matt Ryan, QB 18. Pittsburgh: Teddy Bridgewater, QB 25. Minnesota: Ryan Tannehill, QB 28. Baltimore: Matthew Stafford, QB

Guys/Gals, I could go on with this banter, but I really come to this board to talk about the Bills. I'm going to bow out of this conversation now. Carry on.

In my reply to you, I was saying why the issue of 'murder of black people' has become political, which is what Kaep was kneeling for... Antifa is using the current situation to incite violence. I do not think they really care about the real issue, "murder of black people". IMO, they are the ones that helped to incite rioting and destroying to businesses.

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Instead of just sending me a link, how about you actually tell me what you want to talk about... Dude, can you actually keep a singular thought... Who the F said that Antifa was about Kaep's kneeling... Keep up man...

We are all for stopping the unnecessary violence towards blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, when in the custody of the police. The George Floyd incident has put 99.9% of everyone on the same side. The cop that did this should be put away for a LONG LONG time. It's a political issue because of different groups that have made this political. Black Lives Matter as a group is a far left group. Antifa is a WAY far left group. Both of these group have politicized this. I've seen many videos where Trump supporters wanted to come out and protest with all the other protestors, just to be shunned and ran out with the threat of violence.

SDS, In any of these cities where all this brutality is happening, which Political party is in power? Who voted for Trump has nothing to do with this issue. Trump does not control the police force in Baltimore, NYC, Minneapolis, LA, Washington DC, Chicago. The other party controls ALL the levers of power in those cities. AND in most cases the other party has been in power there for MANY DECADES! Maybe you should look at Biden who signed and championed the Crime Bill that put in many black people into jails....

Worst logic Logic. If Kaep wanted to produce a TV ad and play it during football games, I have no problem with that. Intentionally being provocative at work to produce a controversy while working AND disrespecting a good majority of the American public, which cost the NFL many millions of dollars. That is why Kaep will probably never be a QB again. Even during press conferences after games or press interviews to share his views would have been ok IMO. But out on the football field on Sunday in his teams uniform, I'm sorry I don't agree with it. Curious, why is the military and saluting military personnel political or a social issue? Dems/Repubs/Libertarians/Independents all participate in military service.

You are correct, cities are allowed to spend their money any way they like. I have not heard the reason for the cuts is COVID-19. The only thing I have heard is they are going to move those monies to other initiatives.... so it is not lowering the budget. So it looks like a kneejerk reaction to the whole 'defund police' calls. So, it looks punitive.

People are allowed to use their rights whenever you want to, but you have to accept the consequences of your actions (which includes the opinion of others). Just like I can say whatever I want, but depending on where I am, I could lose my job for comments when I am at work, or receive a backlash on this message board because of replying to you if people don't agree with me. Kapernick (sp?) decided to sit/take a knee when he was on the job. You are allowed to do that, but accept the consequences of your actions. He did it intentionally (just like the cops/pig socks at work) because he wanted to be provocative. Well, he brought a whole poopstorm down on the NFL and now he doesn't work there. Actions have consequences. If Kapernick held a press conference when not at work and wanted to express his grievances, that would have been more proper and he might still be on an NFL roster.

IMO, this will be the first season where we can get a decent comparison between Dak and Josh Allen. Dak has had a very good offense around him his whole career, while this season will be the first where Josh Allen has all the pieces to create a good offense. Dak still has a better OLine, RB's. The WR's are close to a push, with the Cowboys with a slight advantage. So let's see how Josh and Dak look after the first 4-6 games this year...

Can we do this with QB's too? Some run the football, some go out for passes... can we average their cost with those positions??? ?

Josh's rookie year, the offense talent on that team tied both of his hand behind his back... Last year, with a retooled Oline, a #2 WR as a #1, good slot receiver, and super green TE's, Josh showed very noticeable improvement and led us to the playoffs. Now, this year, the same Oline is back (after a year of gelling), WR is now a strength with a #1 WR coming in, minus Gore plus Moss will improve running game. I expect the continued improvement in Josh Allen this year. IMO, our offense will continue to improve with all the new weapons, which will open up everyone. Also, it looks like Josh is a great leader and the physicality to play QB at a high level (can run and cannon for arm). IMO, it all depends on how far this team progresses. We make it to a Superbowl and actually win , Josh can get anything he wants. If he shows that with a #1 WR the offense can be productive, he will get a good deal. Bold prediction: I think Buffalo is going to totally blow up some teams this year. With a big offense improvement and an already stout defense, I think we can see some 35-7 ballgames in our future. Bold Prediction2: I actually think that Josh Allen will resign with Buffalo and it will be a very favorable, cap friendly deal because I think Josh cares more about winning than the paycheck.

I think the coach and GM need to come to an understanding that there are some positions more important than others, like punter vs. QB vs. DE vs. Guard... Also, the pay needs to reflect those needs. I mean we would all love to have high priced talent at every position, but because of the salary cap, that is not going to happen. Usually, the most important positions are: QB, LT, DE, CB (as Gregthekeg stated). So on the flip side, the *least* important positions are (IMO): Guard, LB, Safety *least* here just means in salary cap hit. You still want talent in all positions. So using that above, Josh Allen, White and Dawkins will get extensions. I think it will be hard to sign both LB's to extensions (unless they take cap friendly deals)

First off, as for the Diggs trade, I was not happy with the trade initially. Not because of the player, but for what we gave up for him. If it would have been a 2nd round pick instead of a 1st, I would have been ecstatic for the trade. Especially after the compensation for the other big WR trade this offseason, **cough cough Houston**. And even farther away from the trade, I've come around that giving up the first for Stefon was 'ok' because of where we were drafting and the level of WR we could have received at that spot. Generally, I want to keep or accumulate draft picks because you always want to infuse fresh new low cost (cap) talent into the roster, so you can have the money to spend on the *higher* talent. IMO, that is the best way to try and balance your roster. Since the draft is a crapshoot, how do you inject logic and clarity in a chaotic situation? (so if you were the GM, you keep your job) ** Side note - If anyone has any insights as to how NFL teams comprise their scouting / player evaluation teams, I would love to hear about it. How many ppl? How much they spend? Anything really about it. Thx. ** Obviously, scouting right. *duh* Trying to come up with some process to evaluate player talents and how they would project to the NFL game. Now, some teams are much better at drafting than others. I would assume they have better evaluation teams than the other ones... providing more clarity during chaos. IF I was an owner or GM, you need to understand that player evaluation is the lifeblood of any professional team. Being able to find the players that will be productive at the next level... be it sure fire 1st round talent, or the undrafted RB that you think can be a good NFL player... To provide clarity, I think you need a good size player evaluation team. One that evaluates ALL players. College and current professional players. Evaluation doesn't end after some other team drafts a WR or OT you wanted. Analysis continues because they will at some time become a free agent or available thru trade. You can also use that analysis to provide 20/20 hindsight into your college draft evaluation. Did I evaluate that person correctly? How do I fix the process if incorrect? So, while I agree with you the draft is a chaotic time filled with wildly random player talent levels, a crapshoot. Proper player evaluation can provide a great sense of clarity in a difficult time. Also, self evaluation of the player evaluation process should provide better evaluations in the future, ie. better drafting.

If only 3 guys made a whole OL. It is a good nucleus though. Tyron has missed 3 games hurt the last 4 years and it starting to have back problems. Biadasz is a rookie, so we really don't know how he's going to pan out right now and leaves a hole at the other guard position. We shall see how the line holds up.