CincyBillsFan

Sure his QB ratings have gone up but no where near as much as Allen's did through his first 3 seasons: 2018 = 67.9 2019 = 85.3 2020 = 107.2 IMO Murray isn't throwing the ball all that much better now then he was throwing it his rookie year. As for the Cowboys paying Dak 40 million per year? They're going to feel more and more like the Vikings do with Cousins over the next couple of seasons. So what would I pay Murray if I owned Arizona? Somewhere between 25 - 30 million dollars per year.

I agree with 3 of your 4 points. But IMO Murray has not proved himself yet. After three seasons: * He has yet to throw for 4000 or more yards. * He has yet to throw 30 or more TD's * If you look at his trajectory he has not really improved since his rookie season. * His one playoff game was a disaster. It was one of the worst QBed playoff games I've seen in the last 20 years. IMO the Cards would be better off with Jimmy G at QB. As an aside can you imaging if Allen had the same stats and outcomes after 3 full seasons, including a playoff game, that Murray has had? It would be a blood bath on 2BD and a lot of people would be screaming that no way should the Bills give Allen a big contract.

I think Murray's terrible performance in his first playoff game at the end of his 3rd season is cause for concern. I don't see anyone paying him over 40 million per year in a long term contract (as opposed to year-to-year as a franchise QB) until they get a better read on whether he can up his game in the playoffs. The other issue with Murray is that looking at his stats he has not improved over his first three seasons. His TD pass numbers, TD/INT ratio and passing yards appear to have plateaued. He has not thrown for 30 TD's yet nor has he thrown for over 4,000 yards. From a stat & eye test Murray is similar to Dak Prescott but 6 inches shorter.

Allen's ability to escape disaster hid this from a lot of fans.

You make a great point. You could also throw in the Titans bizarre decisions on their last offensive drive.

I haven't. That was worse, considering the position on the field, then anything Allen has done.

Flores worried me. It just seemed like a matter of time before the Dolphins truly became a contender under his helm. This guy and whoever the hell he brings in as coordinators - not to much. IMO the East will be easier for the Bills to win next season then it was this season.

Can you imagine the misery of that place with both O'Brien and Belechick there? IMO the division has gotten a lot easier with the Dolphins firing of Flores and the loss of MacDanial from NE.

Allen did his part in the KC playoff game so IMO there's nothing he has to overcome in that regard.

Your heart is in the right place but this guy is obviously a troll. BTW you did a nice job laying out the situation with the Brown family.

Like I said you don't know the Brown family.

They don't hire QB coaches unless they need one and they're very patient with whoever is caching their team. They don't fire one guy just to hire another.

You don't know much about the Brown family (Bengal's owners) do you? Also Brady didn't become available until the middle of the season and last I looked the Bengals are still playing. So no,there was no way that Brady was going to the Bengals.

Brady was promoted to soon. Going from passing game coordinator/WR coach at LSU to NFL offensive coordinator in one year was to big of a jump. But what he did at LSU, a program with almost no history of a high octane passing attack, was exceptional. And the success of the players in the NFL that he coached can not be denied. As for Carolina, not sure Brady can be blamed for that #### storm. First off, the Panthers offense nose dived after Brady was fired. And Brady didn't trade for Sam Darnold or sign Cam Newton or injure CMAC. Hiring Brady was a great move by the Bills. He's clearly an offensive minded guy who can design innovative passing schemes. And he now has a burning desire to prove his detractors wrong. Oh and I assume Dorsey will be calling the plays not Brady.

They didn't have an opening.

Allen is very coachable and open to any ideas that improve his game. Joe Brady is well known to the QB's & WR's of the NFL because of that amazing season at LSU. Allen will appreciate the insight Brady brings to the table and Brady will appreciate that he's lucked into coaching the NFL's most electrifying QB. There is ever reason to believe that these two will make magic together.

Check out these highlights from the LSU versus Oklahoma playoff game in 2019:

It's easy to say today that Burrow, Chase and Jefferson were always great but the reality is that they were relative unknowns when Brady took the job as LSU's passing coordinator in 2019. The LSU head coach and offensive coordinator suspected they had something special with these guys but didn't have the knowledge to create an offense they could flourish in. Brady not only implemented an NFL stye passing game at LSU he called the pass plays on game day. And that LSU team went to have the greatest passing attack in college football history with the QB and both WR's having great success in the NFL. For me it's Brady's experience at LSU that is so exciting for what he might do in Buffalo with Allen. Brady recognized that he had an NFL caliber QB and WR's and he designed an NFL passing attack to take advantage. Go back and watch some of those LSU games in 2019, particularly the SEC championship game and the two playoff games to see how Brady coordinates a passing attack. Not only will Diggs love what Brady brings to the table but Davis s going to really emerge as a threat in a Brady passing system.

I suspect that as more Bills fans become aware of Brady's history and what he did at LSU they are going to get real excited about the possibilities here. IMO this could be a perfect storm that results in a historically explosive NFL offense.

This might be the most important under the radar coaching hire by the Bills in the last 20 years. Joe Brady is a phenom when it comes to designing an elite passing attack. What he did in LSU in one season with a transfer QB and a couple of unknown WR's is the stuff of legend. LSU did not have a reputation of being a passing team. They were a play great defense and run the ball type of program. That Joe Brady was the sole architect of an LSU passing offense that was the greatest ever seen in college football history is beyond dispute. Both the LSU head coach and offensive coordinator were novices when it came to implementing an NFL level passing game. That's why they hired Brady. Obviously going from Saints Offensive Quality Control coach to Passing game coordinator at LSU to offensive coordinator at Carolina in three years was a classic case of being promoted to fast. Now we have a guy who was thrown under the bus by the Panthers getting a chance to take a step back and show the league what he can do. We should all be very excited at what Dorsey, Brady and Allen will do together. I suspect we're about to see history made.

Signing Brady is huge. My understanding was that he was an offensive quality control gopher for the Saints when he impressed then LSU coach Ed Orgeron after he presented a seminar on creating a successful NFL style passing attack. He was promptly hired as the passing coordinator for LSU (they already had an offensive coordinator). Brady went to a college with NO history of being a passing program and in one summer molded a transfer QB named Joe Burrow and a couple of unknown WR's named Chase & Jefferson into the greatest passing attack in College football history. After that one record setting season he was hired as offensive coordinator for the Panthers and then fired (thrown under the bus) a year later. It was clear Brady was promoted to quickly to NFL offensive coordinator. Now the Bills are getting a real talent that understands how to create an explosive and effective NFL passing attack. This might be the most important off season coaching hire by the Bills in years.

I've felt great about Allen before this. Heck I felt great about Allen after his rookie season. But his play in the two playoff games was beyond spectacular. I feel like I got a glimpse at how high is "up" for Allen and it's awfully damn high.

They don't trust Jimmy G to throw the ball. No but it sure makes me feel good about the next 5 years. We have a QB that has now demonstrated that he can play his best when the stakes are highest. And Allen's best is better then any other QB.

Nick, Nick Wright, is that you man? Boy you must be real pissed off the way the Chiefs and Mahomes choked in the 2nd half against the Bengals. I would be to if Allen wet the bed in the same way.

It's funny how creative these Allen "hate" threads have become. And I do mean HATE. Oh sure they couch their words carefully and throw out some insincere praise - "Allen is good BUT........" - still it's clear they're throwing shade at Allen and trying not to look completely ridiculous in doing it. Sure anything can happen next year. But how can any thinking Bills fan not be optimistic about our QB situation? I just don't get it. Now you've lost all credibility. Judas Priest are you serious here?