JGMcD2

Man, I hope we win one. I don't want to look back and wonder what could have been - this group has had SO much success. At the same time, I need to remember to enjoy this for what it is. We're so competitive each and every week.

JD McKissic

You mean like when he canned Rick Dennison after 1 season to bring in notoriously combustible Brian Daboll to run the offense and Daboll went on to hold the role until he was hired as a HC?

It was very well known that Daboll was a hot head before he got here, while he was here and after he left. Derek Anderson told stories about it, Josh talks about it. He grew by the time he got to Buffalo and while he was here, but I got the sense he wasn’t very well received in his previous stops as OC.

Most people are going to say Hail Murray, the Jefferson catch, the Hurricane Game, etc. Yes, I know those aren’t game blowing mistakes… but others do not.

Don’t worry, there are people on this board who will legitimately argue we need to hire Doug Pederson to replace McDermott.

3 of those years he wasn’t the unicorn he is today. Playoff appearances in 2/3 those seasons. Sights are still set higher.

It takes both

One thing I've learned over the years, the majority of players aren't really clear on what it takes to be a high-level coach. What they are VERY clear on is how a coach makes them feel. Players don't view the game the same way most coaches and fans do. This is really ranking the best "people managers" in those roles. As for X's and O's... well that shows up in the results.

Lord. The revisionist history with this signing is hysterical.

But Cam Newton was allowed to be MVP for the exact same reason? Jalen Hurts was the runner up last year and favorite for most of this year for the exact same reason before he threw up all over himself? Give me a break.

I mean the statistically he’s on pace to be in the top 5-10 QBs ever. Josh’s average season the last 4 years blows some of the recent MVP seasons out of the water. Somehow this inconsistent QB is consistently putting up MVP numbers since breaking out in 2020. We’re going to penalize the guy for consistently being elite while MAYBE 1 other guy a year produces a similar season and gets an award. His *career* INT% of 2.4% is equal to guys in a similar era like Matthew Stafford and better than Rivers, Roethlisberger, Manning and Newton to name a few. Drew Brees sat at 2.3%. Want to talk about fumbles? Lamar? Hurts? They’re not passers like Josh Allen. Hurts averages 3 fumbles lost a season, Lamar 4, Josh 4. How come we don’t hear about their fumbling problem? Sure, let’s talk about all the other dual threat QBs that throw the ball like Josh…. Waiting… Josh is about to have his 4th straight 4,000 yard passing season. Lamar, Newton and Hurts have combined for 1 between the 3 of them… it came in Newton’s rookie season. If you do not want to recognize how great he truly is, I just feel sorry you (and sports writers) are willing to miss it.

I guess my point with Kyle Allen is, he couldn’t produce the numbers Keenum did across 2 games? His career averages are better than that and he was on some talent depleted teams. Brissett is too good to sign with us. He’ll have the opportunity to sign with a team in QB purgatory because he’s good enough to start. It’ll be too hard to get that type of quality backup to sign here, because most want a chance to play.

On Josh’s 15 rushing TDs, he scores from an average of 6 yards out. It’s pretty much a 50/50 split from inside the 5 and outside the 5. This isn’t Jalen Hurts getting carried in by his teammates 11 times from the 1 yard line. As for Damien Harris being the catalyst for Josh’s “misleading” TD numbers inside the 5… no. He has 8 from inside the 5 yard line and 5 of those have come the last 3 weeks… Damien Harris last played on 10/15. The last 3 weeks have been *must win* all that says to me is with our backs against the wall we want the ball in the hands of our best player.

You don’t think Kyle Allen could complete 64% of his passes for 291 yards, 1 TD and 3 INT across two games like Keenum? If Kenny Pickett and Mitch Trubisky weren’t so incompetent, I think Rudolph would’ve been here next year. Supposedly we liked him a lot coming out in 2018. At this point he probably goes back to Pittsburgh with a chance to start.

Is this possible? You can’t have more than 5-6 inactive players… this list has like 15 guys on it lol

He wasn’t covered up lol

And he’s producing at a high level for a rookie TE? What does draft status have to do with it? His production has been congruent with the WR drafted ahead of him in RD1. What do Sammy Watkins, Mike Evans and OBJ have to do with Dalton Kincaid? Answer: Absolutely nothing

You’re the one making it that way lol It’s ok for other players to be good.

God forbid we mention Kincaid without mentioning LaPorta. As if LaPorta’s success means Kincaid is a bust. Outside of Mike Ditka, LaPorta is having arguably the greatest season ever by a rookie TE - it doesn’t mean Kincaid is bad or struggling this year. Looking at numbers quick (it should be noted that LaPorta will play 1 extra game than previous rookie TE as well as Kincaid due to injury) LaPorta has the most catches (81) all-time. Kincaid has 62 catches which is 6th all-time. He’ll likely finish top 5. Laporta will likely finish with the 3rd most yards. Kincaid will finish somewhere around 15 all-time. They’re featuring LaPorta much more, but Kincaid’s role is nothing to sneeze at.

The Bills have 20 rushing TDs. Murray has scored from 2, 3, 2 and 4. James Cook from 1 and 24. Damien Harris from 1. Josh is from: 1 (3x) 2 (2x) 3 6 (2x) 9 10 11 13 16 He’s not benefiting from the Jalen Hurts tush push (11/15 TDs from 1 or less).

I vividly remember that play. I went to college in Massachusetts. I had one roommate who was also a Bills fan and the rest were Patriots fans - we all watched the game together. I was so fired up about that hit because it was absolute bull####. I love my friends, but in typical Masshole fashion they turned it into me being a sore loser, mocked the hit, etc.

I remember that… it was a lengthy exchange by post-game standards. I vaguely remember being able to read Belichick’s lips.

I understand that they don’t have a QB and that seems to be the excuse, which is somewhat valid. Although, you can look at some of the better coaches in the league when they haven’t had good QB play and they’re usually hovering around .500 during those seasons. Sean McDermott Kyle Shanahan Sean McVay Mike Tomlin Sean Payton Personally I think Saleh runs his mouth a little too much. The “keeping receipts” and “we’ll be playing them for a playoff spot” or even “we’ve embarrassed QBs”. I think that stuff is fine to say in the locker room, but he’s constantly spewing it to the media.