LyndonvilleBill

Don't get me wrong, I think we have some VERY good players on D. But, other than when Von was playing, do you think any OC we played against said "We need to focus on this player in order to beat the Bills"?

And I disagree. I think he does everything he is asked to do in the system we run. Blocks, catches and gets 4.6+ yards a carry while splitting carries in a rotation. Give him 15+ carries a game, a respectable OL and he's a 1,000+ yd rusher. He's earned more touches, we just don't give them to him like we should.

Of course any back would like a light box, I'm sure most would also like to average more than 10 carries a game. Give him an OL and a chance to get there. You can't just pick 2 games (loses at that) against KC and use it as a "Fact" to try and argue your position. The least you could do is use recent or career stats, but I guess that wouldn't help your case. Why not 4.6 over the last 2 playoff games THIS season or 4.7 over his career? I get it, you don't like Singletary. That's your opinion. Some of us think he is better than he gets credit for. That's my opinion. To each their own. But at least use numbers fairly and don't just pick random ones cause they fit your opinion.

6 man boxes doesn't mean much if your getting hit in the backfield. 😉

We do. We just don't have any "Game Changers" on D and our only REAL O is Diggs and Allen. I think we are easy to gameplan against. Double Diggs and spy Allen. On D when Von was playing, Double Von. Pretty simple. I thinks we need a bigger back (later rounds) to compliment Cook on a rookie deal and a couple of "Difference Makers" i.e. WR, LB, Edge. Someone that makes the opponent have to plan for. Add an OL or two to give Allen an extra 1/2 second in the pocket and I think the whole O changes including the running game.

FA will be key and Morse decision (I think he stays for at least one more year). Personally, I'd re-sign Ike and get a starting RG (VET ONLY). I don't want a rookie or low level starter next to Brown. Re-sign Q, Van Rotten, whoever you choose for depth I'd probably go with Q for flexibility). Then draft 1 or 2 OL. Doesn't really have to be early picks but should be able to compete for a starting position next season and one has to be OG/C combo (day 2/ early 3). Ike and Bates battle for starting LG. If Ike wins the battle you have a BU Center/ Guard. Bates wins, you have a BU guard. Bates best play is at LG or Center. LT Dawkins LG Ike/Bates C Morse RG VET ONLY RT Brown

At 11m, I'd sign Edmunds to a 10 yr contract. He'd be what like 25 at the end of it?😉. Seriously though, at that price I'd re-sign him. At 16-17+, I'd pass and sign a couple of OL and draft his replacement.

Yeah, He's a Loch 😁. I like Campbell as well.

Looks like he played LG in 2022. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jarrett-Patterson-OL-NotreDame

Really liking Campbell as a replacement for Edmunds if he isn't retained.

I also like Voorhees and Tippmann as options. Is there any savings on the cap hit if he retires versus being cut?

Personally, I think the players will be looking to get back at it. It was a tough year with all that happened. When you look at the team, would the Bengals game be different had Poyer, Hyde, White, Jones, Phillips and Miller been healthy and close to 100%? I also think Josh was playing less than 100%. As to FA'S, I would refer you to comments made by Phillips and Lawson and how happy they were to come home or Fitz and he wasn't even a current player. Ultimately, I don't think FA'S matter to the Bills as we probably won't be playing much in FA. I think McD fits well here and in Buffalo. I think Dorsey deserves at least another year, but should have someone next to him with more experience. As to Frazier, I tend to agree and wouldn't mind a change, but who? Unless it's someone more aggressive, I'm not sure I would make the change. I don't think Peyton could do any better and definitely would not give up draft picks to obtain ANY coach. We need all of our pick plus some. PS. I would have liked someone like Swartz, but he's off the table.

The thing is, if they re-sign Edmunds, it would probably eat up a bunch of that and if they Tag him, wouldn't it take just about all of the savings from restructuring Josh?

Shakir? Plus a DP or they could always bring Crowder back or even Beasley if they really wanted to.

I would like both back as well and I'm sure this will shock a few, I would look at Hines as a replacement for McKenzie and not as a replacement for Singletary. 😱😱. He can run the gadget plays, can play slot if needed, can line up in the backfield, plus both KR/P returns.

Hmmm. Tough question. If it was me and based upon current roster, I would not pull the trigger. As for OL, I think rnd 1 should be for LT'S or generational talents (i.e. Quinton Nelson). But if you forced me to take a slot wr or an OL at our current 1st, I would go OL. I would seriously and actively be looking to trade back though.

What I meant by reach is top of 2nd rnd guys at our pick in the first. Like Rice or Boutte and I'd like the 5th year option on them over trying to trade back and risk it. As to Flowers, Downs and Hyatt, I see them as slot guys🤔. Hyatt is the only one that might measure 6' and he has only had 1 year of production which might (imo), might cause hesitation as a 1st rnd pick. Awesome speed receivers though.

Not really into the big name thing much, just think an Outside WR should be a top priority. Plus the cost of them in FA is getting out of hand😱. Even if we reach a little I'd rather it be for an outside wr over any other position. Josh and Diggs need some help.

To answer your second paragraph (edited), Aj, Boogie, Lawson and Basham don't have enough juice as pash rushers as we saw when Von went out. Groot is all we have. Von probably won't be back until October/November and just as we saw with White, we tend to not rush players back from Injuries and I believe this is his 2nd acl repair on the same knee. What will we get when he returns? Von is no spring chicken and I'd like to have someone to learn from Von for a year or two and be able to rotate with Von when he does return. It was also a value choice based upon the PFF rankings and position. In all reality, I would switch Rice and Carter as I think it would be a more accurate ranking. Rice in the first and Carter in the second rnd (probably goes top though). I don't see a G, TE, S or RB as 1st rnd value for us. We already have our starting Tackles (regardless of people's opinion) on the roster. We already have our starting RB, CB'S and QB. I think the sweet spot for a C or G is in the middle rounds. I could see a MLB instead of Edge in the 2nd, but this will depend on what the outcome is with Edmunds. Bottom line (IMO), WR 1st, Edge or LB 2nd, OL 3&4, depth/ future 5+. PS. I would have taken Joe Tippmann at 139 if Patterson wasn't available. 😁

Rather take a later round swing at a bigger back. Started looking at Roshon Jonhnson from Texas. Converted QB to RB freshman year. 6'2" 223. 🤔

Bills site says 205, so I would go with this.

I agree with it. Have said it multiple times myself. Then grab another late rnd CB.

Agree. And Hopefully to the Bills.😁

Yup. 😁

No. Same with Rice. I think Rice goes between 25 and 35. 40 at the latest. One of the reasons why I'm not a fan of PFF. I think there rankings are off. But, with a no trade Mock on PFF, I just grabbed the position and players I like that were available. Personally I think PFN is better in ranking.🤔