LyndonvilleBill

Yup, put him on the Ping Pong ball program. Less work on the body, more work on hands and eye coordination.

Maybe. But I'm not trading up in the 1st for a WR2. I don't think we have enough draft capital as it is this year. The OL is top priority in the draft in my eyes, but I think FA could change my mind. We have got to find a way to get Josh 3+ seconds without having to keep Knox and a RB in as an extra blockers. Not going to win the battle if you keep your weapons in the hanger.

There are actually a few mid-late rnd wr I like, but will save that discussion for a WR thread. 🤫

I am on the platform getting ready to board the train (with a small trade back). Also buying a ticket for the Cody Mauch train (2nd rnd).😉.

Probably the reason I've been divorced for 20 years. Couldn't quite get the "Fine" thing.😉. He did have a 76% catch rate. I wish some of our WR could have gotten that.😱. Most people are talking about the money and not specifically the play of Singletary (myself included). Can we get similar play from a rookie for less money. Maybe, definitely cheaper. Can we get better play for the same money (FA), I'm not so sure. Does spending more money mean we will get more production (FA), I doubt it. I'm "Fine" with drafting a player to replace him (money), I'm just not confident that we would get any more production than we have with Singletary. Especially without fixing the OL. So, I have some questions that I go back and forth on. Maybe you can help. If another team is willing to pay him 5m (just a number) for his skills and production, why is he not worth 5m to the Bills? We drafted him, great teammate does everything asked of him, knows the system, been healthy and available etc. Why is he worth more to someone else? What happened to draft and sign your own?

I do like him. He's a good solid player, good teammate and is pretty much always available. Is he elite? No. But still a good player. To give a little perspective. You said 1600 yds. Josh Jacobs had 1653 or 4.9 ypc (career of 4.4). Your arguing over about .2 of a yard difference per carry between them(7.2 inches). I'd give up the 7.2 inch difference than pay nearly double the cost for Jacobs. Of course I want our running game to be better, but, I think it would be improved more with upgrades to the OLine than it would be getting a new RB. A new running back is not going to protect Allen any better than Singletary. As for Allen. Get a respectable OLine so he isn't running for his life every few plays. (BTW he wasn't running when he hurt his elbow and maybe having a better line would have helped). A different RB is not going to stop Allen from running nor will it stop designed running plays. Since 88? Nice. So you were one of the early bandwagon fans. Sorry you missed the 70s when we got our butts kicked regularly. Glad your Fandom started on a positive note. Here's a little advice. Don't EVER question a person's "Fandom" just because they don't agree with you. It comes across as childish and kind of pathetic. PS. If it makes you feel any better, I wouldn't pay Singletary 5.5m and even if he stays, I'm still looking for a bigger back in the late rounds or UDFA.

We rotate backs and I don't see that changing anytime soon. How many backs hit 1600 yards in the 2022 season? 1 maybe? Plus between Allen, Cook and Singletary we rushed for over 1600. Get an OL together, and give Cook and Singletary a few more snaps and between the two you'll get your 1600 yards plus. Maybe we should just use what we have better, instead of beating up on them.

LOL. In our system. LOL. You made my stomach hurt. LOL... 1600 yards. LOL... At least know I know why you are down on Singletary. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Thanks, been a rough day at work, I really needed this. 🤣🤣🤣🤣. Please no more today.🤣🤣🤣🤣

Don't get me wrong, I think we have some VERY good players on D. But, other than when Von was playing, do you think any OC we played against said "We need to focus on this player in order to beat the Bills"?

And I disagree. I think he does everything he is asked to do in the system we run. Blocks, catches and gets 4.6+ yards a carry while splitting carries in a rotation. Give him 15+ carries a game, a respectable OL and he's a 1,000+ yd rusher. He's earned more touches, we just don't give them to him like we should.

Of course any back would like a light box, I'm sure most would also like to average more than 10 carries a game. Give him an OL and a chance to get there. You can't just pick 2 games (loses at that) against KC and use it as a "Fact" to try and argue your position. The least you could do is use recent or career stats, but I guess that wouldn't help your case. Why not 4.6 over the last 2 playoff games THIS season or 4.7 over his career? I get it, you don't like Singletary. That's your opinion. Some of us think he is better than he gets credit for. That's my opinion. To each their own. But at least use numbers fairly and don't just pick random ones cause they fit your opinion.

6 man boxes doesn't mean much if your getting hit in the backfield. 😉

We do. We just don't have any "Game Changers" on D and our only REAL O is Diggs and Allen. I think we are easy to gameplan against. Double Diggs and spy Allen. On D when Von was playing, Double Von. Pretty simple. I thinks we need a bigger back (later rounds) to compliment Cook on a rookie deal and a couple of "Difference Makers" i.e. WR, LB, Edge. Someone that makes the opponent have to plan for. Add an OL or two to give Allen an extra 1/2 second in the pocket and I think the whole O changes including the running game.

FA will be key and Morse decision (I think he stays for at least one more year). Personally, I'd re-sign Ike and get a starting RG (VET ONLY). I don't want a rookie or low level starter next to Brown. Re-sign Q, Van Rotten, whoever you choose for depth I'd probably go with Q for flexibility). Then draft 1 or 2 OL. Doesn't really have to be early picks but should be able to compete for a starting position next season and one has to be OG/C combo (day 2/ early 3). Ike and Bates battle for starting LG. If Ike wins the battle you have a BU Center/ Guard. Bates wins, you have a BU guard. Bates best play is at LG or Center. LT Dawkins LG Ike/Bates C Morse RG VET ONLY RT Brown

At 11m, I'd sign Edmunds to a 10 yr contract. He'd be what like 25 at the end of it?😉. Seriously though, at that price I'd re-sign him. At 16-17+, I'd pass and sign a couple of OL and draft his replacement.

Yeah, He's a Loch 😁. I like Campbell as well.

Looks like he played LG in 2022. https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Jarrett-Patterson-OL-NotreDame

Really liking Campbell as a replacement for Edmunds if he isn't retained.

I also like Voorhees and Tippmann as options. Is there any savings on the cap hit if he retires versus being cut?

Personally, I think the players will be looking to get back at it. It was a tough year with all that happened. When you look at the team, would the Bengals game be different had Poyer, Hyde, White, Jones, Phillips and Miller been healthy and close to 100%? I also think Josh was playing less than 100%. As to FA'S, I would refer you to comments made by Phillips and Lawson and how happy they were to come home or Fitz and he wasn't even a current player. Ultimately, I don't think FA'S matter to the Bills as we probably won't be playing much in FA. I think McD fits well here and in Buffalo. I think Dorsey deserves at least another year, but should have someone next to him with more experience. As to Frazier, I tend to agree and wouldn't mind a change, but who? Unless it's someone more aggressive, I'm not sure I would make the change. I don't think Peyton could do any better and definitely would not give up draft picks to obtain ANY coach. We need all of our pick plus some. PS. I would have liked someone like Swartz, but he's off the table.

The thing is, if they re-sign Edmunds, it would probably eat up a bunch of that and if they Tag him, wouldn't it take just about all of the savings from restructuring Josh?

Shakir? Plus a DP or they could always bring Crowder back or even Beasley if they really wanted to.

I would like both back as well and I'm sure this will shock a few, I would look at Hines as a replacement for McKenzie and not as a replacement for Singletary. 😱😱. He can run the gadget plays, can play slot if needed, can line up in the backfield, plus both KR/P returns.

Hmmm. Tough question. If it was me and based upon current roster, I would not pull the trigger. As for OL, I think rnd 1 should be for LT'S or generational talents (i.e. Quinton Nelson). But if you forced me to take a slot wr or an OL at our current 1st, I would go OL. I would seriously and actively be looking to trade back though.

What I meant by reach is top of 2nd rnd guys at our pick in the first. Like Rice or Boutte and I'd like the 5th year option on them over trying to trade back and risk it. As to Flowers, Downs and Hyatt, I see them as slot guys🤔. Hyatt is the only one that might measure 6' and he has only had 1 year of production which might (imo), might cause hesitation as a 1st rnd pick. Awesome speed receivers though.