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One of the few ten pages of legitimate, reasonable discourse I've seen and certainly since the draft.

LMAO. In 2016 he had fewer passes attempted than nearly every other starting QBs. In 2015, he attempted even fewer. Please inform me how he was supposed to complete passes he NEVER GOT THE CHANCE TO THROW. Can we run the video on his turnovers as well? Should take about 60 seconds.

Given that their GM did NOT overpay by 30% or more to get a QB, I don't think the narrative is "changing". The proof is in what they actually did do and what they didn't do. Don't see the need to toss shade on a GM that got what was universally seen as the most pro-ready QB to back up what is universally seen as the most brittle starter and for not overpaying to do so.

well, when you purposefully destroy the entire WR core and replace them with the flotsam of the NFL ... that tends to work against the QBs confidence just a little bit. Buffalo Bills offense, 2015 and 2016: 778 points, 390 per year (and by the way, an upward trajectory). Buffalo Bills offense, 2017: 360 points. Is it fair to say that the team lost 40 points of offense because of the WR group more than the QB? I think so. Buffalo put a run-first offense on the field and for three years all I heard from fans was why the QB doesn't throw for 250 to 300 yards.?

ez. Paul Maguire.

Which is greater ... Number of posters that know who Spiro T. Agnew is or Number of posters that can tell you who the last Bills punter was that completed a pass.

Steve Fairchild has a long career in football at the highest level. Just for ***** and giggles ... I mean, I don't this guy at all but ... First year as an OC - team goes from 7-9 before him to 12-4 in his first year and the QB gets his first PB. Second year as OC - team goes 8-6 with starting QB, wins playoff game and loses in second round. Third year as OC - team still middle of pack. Throughout this time period the Rams segue from one HoF RB to Steven Jackson. Offense ranks 2nd, 19th, 11th. This is what he got out of his QB. Let me assure you, whatever Marc Bulger was going to be, Steve Fairchild didn't leave any of it in the clubhouse. Marc Bulger Passing Statistics for Career Games 2003 to 2005 Games Passing Passing Year Tm G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD Average 12 12 283 435 3369 19 15 35 259 Per 16 Games 16 16 367 564 4370 25 19 45 336 2003-2005 RAM 37 37 22-15-0 849 1304 65.1 10106 57 4.4 45 3.5 57 7.8 7.1 11.9 273.1 88.8 104 778 6.63 6.00 7.4 Comes to Buffalo and gets this out of JP Losman - who, before Fairchild completed 49% of his passes: J.P. Losman Passing Statistics for Career Games 2006 to 2007 Games Passing Passing Year Tm G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD Average 12 12 190 302 2128 12 10 30 218 Per 16 Games 16 15 253 403 2837 15 13 41 290 2006-2007 BUF 24 23 9-14-0 379 604 62.7 4255 23 3.8 20 3.3 85 7.0 6.3 11.2 177.3 82.6 61 435 5.74 5.08 9.2 Before Steve Fairchild, Losman was horrible. Losman disappeared after he was gone. Obviously our offense under Dick Jauron wasn't much in those years. But again, whatever JP Losman was going to be Steve Fairchild didn't leave any of it in the locker room. Meanwhile YOU are someone with all the credits in your life in football to the point where you don't disclose you real name on a football blog. Pretty cheeky if you ask me. My own larger point is that somebody on a football website probably doesn't have the chits to sit at a table with Steve Fairchild. TO the OP - thanks for sharing.

What a great company.

#12 Jim Kelly U/Miami Signed #2 Charles Woodson U/Michigan unsigned. Stopped buying jerseys a long time ago (obviously).

Which doesn't mean telling someone else they have to do something. Evangelism by it's nature requires sharing and nothing beyond that; it is up to others to make the conscious decision to accept and join. Sharing is something we know as a fact is what McDermott preaches. He specifically went to great lengths to push this during last training camp; sharing is part of process of turning 53 individuals into a team. There is a definitive - to me - intersection here between faith and football. We are by nature a pack animal, inclined towards joining into a single effort. Faith subjugates, by it's nature. Individualism elevates the self - and if you choose to see how that could devolve into a conversation between Josh Allen and Josh Rosen, so be it. It's not about the faith of Josh Rosen. Go to New Square, NY to find an entire town so cloistered it voted 1159 of 1168 for Hilary Clinton. That sort of unanimity would be welcomed with open arms by our head coach, provided he could harness it toward's his own goals. (how's THAT for walking a fine line between politics, football and religion? LMAO!)

Just before they died, I'm guessing a whole lot of them stopped being atheists. I kid, I kid.

I think this is 100% right. What's more, I enthusiastically support anyone's ability to bring God or lack of God into their working world. In my personal life, I've said that there is more faith to be found on one rug facing Mecca at noon anywhere in America than all the churches on Easter Sunday in Georgia. No one is forcing anything on anyone. Testifying to your faith can be as simple as stating it. You are free to ignore it. If it threatens you, if it makes you think, well, welcome to America. There is a vast ocean between making it a personal journey, and feeling so afraid of your personal journey that you fear sharing it. Sharing can be part of the clubhouse experience and especially the McDermott clubhouse. I think we're all aware of his team building experiences last year before the season began. Having faith, in any thing, by it's nature suggests that you are putting yourself second. It is the very essence of team. It has nothing, whatsoever, to do with religion.

You give up something and gain something. 53 individuals of a unified, collective mindset over time will overcome singular talents - and frankly we saw that as clear as massive probiscus between my eyes last year. And what's more, it is the sort of organization a community can back.

Let's just agree you can see the obvious issues with these two conflicting statements. Each of us has his own walk, his own relationship with God and they are intensely personal - even if it is to reject that relationship. I think glorifying that relationship is the singularly most important thing you can do. It strikes me that the alternative is to surrender yourself to other human beings. My faith calls me to bring every part of my world into some intersection with God. Work, family, rest, awake time, the things that own. I'd encourage anyone to do the same and I'd like to think that is the perspective of our coach. It isn't in any way bigotry and I dare anyone here to make the point that it is.

Let's agree where we can, and let the chips fall where they must. You are well aware of the Scripture that negates part of your text, and I don't see the need to waste many pixels on it. Western culture elevates the human to the position of God, to believe he can ignore whatever he'd like of God's Word in order to exculpate his guilt and excuse abhorrent behavior. The most egregious, Godless people I've known can quote the Bible by verse easily and don't breathe a Word of it. But ... you cannot be on the path without it or make of it what you will. The flip side is also so terribly true. Nothing you can do, no penance paid by word or deed, makes you worthy. It's a fine line between Matthew 22 or 5 and Romans 3. We agree more than we disagree. Vaya con dios.

? Wonder where you think you are going with this idea. *** End of the day, I find that religion is much like any collective effort. You cede rights and are expected by faith to accept certain things. There are expected behaviors. You are not of your volition able to decide which behaviors are acceptable and which are not. Period. This should or perhaps better put could be an inspiration. There is this whole prevailing Western belief that the Bible is some sort of loose leaf notebook - it is part of an underlying, greater path that elevates the person to the position of God. I think humans pretty much make terrible Gods. To the original poster, I dig the coach's faith and desire to bring God into every part of his life. There is a humility there that is refreshing. Cheers.

You know what's also useful? Having videos of football players throwing a ball into a garbage pail from the roof of a building or hitting someone on water skis. I think throwing a football 62 MPH and those kind of skills are almost ALMOST equal. Can we put on pads yet?

that was my recollection. If Ferguson isn't injured, we'd have made the Super Bowl. No doubt in my mind. To have held Fouts to 20 points that day was a freaking miracle.

That's right! I recall Smith as a blown coverage play ... nobody within 10 yards of him. Is that right?

100% correct. It was like the better poker player getting slowly suffocated without enough capital to take down the other guy.

Not to point this at Commonsense (I realize that he's not making a proposal of the Bills taking Ward at 4) ... and this is just fun BS, but ... If the Bills are drafting at #4, anybody that starts a line of reasoning that they select anyone other than the guy they were going to move up to 5 to get anyways is WTF off track. The Bills take Allen at 4. There is absolutely no logic - other than a poster values Chubb/Ward or anyone more than the QB we targeted at 5 - for anyone other than Allen at 4. Now beyond that, the trade still then leaves you with a full allotment of picks. They traded up to get Trumaine, so likely the 12th pick, which you still own, is the choice at 12, because he's still there. Ultimately, if you've traded Tre White to the Browns at 4 - you no longer will have to trade #65 (which ultimately goes in the Trumaine pick), the #53 and #56 pick which are part of the move up to get #7. And you've retained the #12 AND the #22 pick (which you would have used to move up to get Trumaine). The series of events that presumably transpire after moving Tre White to get the 4th pick in the draft leave you with every player THIS ORGANIZATION TARGETED AND wanted anyway, and every pick you had in the draft. That's almost laughably a Buffalo-sided trade. Every freaking day. Every freaking day and twice on Sunday.

Joiner, Jefferson, Winslow. We get beat by f'n Ron Smith. The last 30 minutes of that game was like some kind of EA Poe/sword of damacles cliffhanger. We were getting outpunched every single play, just waiting for it all to end.

Good man, brutally dry wit. 1979, the Bills drafted in order - Jerry Butler, Fred Smerlas and Jim Haslett. Three important franchise players in a row. Might be the best three player stretch in the history of the franchise. 1980 Divisional loss to SD was a tougher game to lose than the Titans game ... Ferguson throws 3 INTs against a HOF studded team and lost 20-14 ... we had already trounced the Raiders earlier in the year. That was our year, 1980. RIP Chuck.

I've been watching football since Ben Davidson thought it might be fun to see just how far Joe Namath could bend. Between 1997 and 2014, we let ... in order ... Wade Phillips Dick LeBeau and Jim Schwartz leave Buffalo. From an organizational failure perspective, you can't get a whole lot worse than that. That's some world class idiocy right there.

This is the second DB to make comments about the QB. I just think that warrants a commentary by teammates . Time for people to stand up and be counted. Not saying what the response should be, but the deafening silence coming from veterans on our team is sad.