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Considering this is essentially based on the last three seasons, #6 feels pretty good for Allen. He was obviously elite last year, but the prior two years weigh his rating down enough to drop him to #6. The same reasoning explains Wilson being high despite the drop-off he had over the second half of the year last year. He was elite the first half of the year and elite the prior two years, so therefore, still a top 5 ranking. Watson was amazing last year and very good in prior seasons, so again, shouldn't be much of a surprise. That video was from Cian Fahey, who tries to do the same thing but is not in any way connected to PFF. It's possible that PFF considered many of those same plays to be turnover-worthy, but they haven't shown video evidence as far as I know. The best they've done as far as being transparent about it is this article that breaks down what is and isn't considered a turnover-worthy play. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-pff-qb-grading-most-effective-tool-there-is With interception-worthy plays, they're essentially looking for throws that are late/poorly located and allow the DB to attempt to intercept it or plays where the QB just misreads it badly and throws the ball straight to the defender for what should be an easy INT. As far as fumbles go, they discount things like bad snaps, missed handoffs, dropped pitches, etc. that are traditionally assigned as fumbles by the QB but aren't really their fault. They also discount "strip-sacks that are unavoidable" as those are blamed on the pass-protection. Allen tends to have a lot of fumbles when he's running or trying too hard in the pocket on plays that probably wouldn't be blamed on the OLine, so it's no surprise that he's among the leaders in turnover-worthy plays. Also, it's total turnover-worthy plays, so naturally, if you're throwing the ball a ton/having your QB run a ton like Allen does, there are more opportunities for turnover-worthy plays than a lot of other QBs have.

DeSantis literally declared a state of emergency.

Yeah I know. I think at this point MLB would force them to give that up if Oakland really has to move though. They want a conclusion to this so they can start talking about expansion.

Yeah, Vegas is the obvious move if Oakland doesn't publicly fund the new stadium. Buffalo is certainly not near the top of the list. Vegas, Portland, or San Jose would be the safe bets IMO.

I'd rather this not be the case in case I'm not able to watch but it is kinda cool. That's 2 of the past 3 years now right?

PFF being our biggest fans as usual. This was a much better list than the one in the OP IMO, though I'd probably take the Giants over the Bengals right now.

It definitely would have been unusual if it was. The NFL doesn't have an option that would be considered usual though. It's usually a game against a fellow conference team (not within the division) that was at least in the playoffs the year before. Tampa doesn't have anyone that matches that criteria. I think the Bears are the closest if I'm not mistaken. I suspect it will be the Cowboys though; a big market, Dak's return, and potential playoff team against the defending SB champs.

I don't really care about the workouts. His film should have made him a top 10 pick. The thing missing with guys like Stephen Hill is they don't show the ability to get off press coverage and without that, those physical tools aren't super helpful. DK embarrassed corners when they tried to press him. Elite ability to get off the press and then elite acceleration, speed, and size; even with just adequate hands he was a dynamite prospect. NFL teams blew it with him.

Pretty cool that he even did this. Just another excuse to talk about how badly teams overthought him as a prospect; was one of the easier WR evaluations of the past few years IMO (at least on the field; obviously no idea what these teams might have seen in his medicals).

If this is a serious question, it was an insanely popular video game when 20-somethings today were growing up where the controller was basically a toy guitar with color coded buttons and you had to strum and press the right buttons based on the notes of the song. There was the Guitar Hero series and the Rock Band series and it was inescapable back then lol.

We definitely aren't #1 but the question in the original tweet is "Who has the best WR corps?" not duo. Buffalo is easily in the top 8 as far as WR corps go. Tampa is clearly #1 IMO though. I'd also probably bump Minnesota and Seattle out of the top 8. Giants should be in there IMO. Not sure who #8 would be but Minnesota and Seattle are basically only two deep.

Oh come on, everyone played Guitar Hero.

Update re: Sony Michel: ESPN is reporting that his roster spot is in jeopardy after they drafted that guy from Oklahoma.

Yeah, this is about to become a major point of contention between the NFLPA and team owners unless Denver does him a solid and agrees to pay him anyways.

And unrelated! That dude is a bull though. He stood out big time when I was watching Kellen Mond's film. I don't think he's generally highly regarded for the draft, but Malik Davis really impressed me when I was watching Kyle Trask's film. Between him, Pitts, and Toney, that was a really strong trio of weapons.

Yeah I looked it up out of curiosity when I saw this thread. He got a futures/reserve contract.

Still waiting for potential 1st round pick Anthony Johnson to get his first NFL snap too lol

FWIW, Patterson's listed 40 time on most sites is a 4.59 from the Pro Day, including places like PlayerProfiler.com that adjusted that to a 4.64 because of the fact that it was hand-timed and those are, on average, 0.05 seconds faster than their real times. Obviously a pretty big difference between a 4.51 and a 4.64. Based on the times that are in The Athletic's draft guide, Patterson was a 4.58. The average RB this year was a 4.54 and the average drafted RB was a 4.51.

It's an improvement for sure but it's still bad relative to most teams in the NFL. I'm not really convinced that they have the talent at the skill positions to prop up what I believe are two bad starting QBs at this point in time.

Also, CEH was drafted highly because he was an incredible receiver out of the backfield. Patterson had 20 catches in 3 years, including 0 this year. But yeah, 5'6" and like a bottom 15% athlete for a RB with no experience as a receiver is going to be a fringe draft pick at best. At best he probably projects as a less versatile Jacquizz Rodgers.

I am really curious to see New England now that they're getting a lot of guys back from Covid and added a lot of pieces in free agency as well. I think the offensive talent on their roster is still just flat out bad and they were bad last year too. I would expect the defense to return to being at least good if not great but I'm still skeptical they can put up enough points to really be that much of a problem.

Yeah, I don't really see the point in giving out grades if you're going to do it that way lol

He's Rotoworld's (Now NBC Sports Edge) lead college football/draft guy. I'd say he's pretty much the only person that does grades the right way. His average grade is a C rather than guys like NFL.com dude giving almost every team a B or A. I think the Rams, Seahawks, and Houston were dinged a lot for the players they actually took as well though. Obviously having fewer picks makes it harder to have a "good" draft, but those teams all took players that analysts didn't really like.

Basing it off the idea that an average draft should be a C grade, I would probably give us a C or C-. The closest I came to loving any of our picks was probably Brown. I liked the idea of going back to back with pass rushers, but I would have liked to see one of them more in Hughes mold of having good speed off the edge to try to force QBs to climb the pocket where Oliver/Rousseau would theoretically be waiting to finish them off. I don't think Basham really compliments the guys we have on the line right now but maybe I'll be wrong about that. Rousseau wouldn't have been my choice in Round 1 but he was who I expected us to end up taking and I think he's a pretty good prospect. I don't really know much about Brown, but I was definitely interested in addressing the OLine in the draft and I love taking an athletic freak like him. Stevenson is an interesting dart throw for a 6th round pick. Shockingly graded out as an average athlete but he looks a lot more athletic on the field than his numbers indicate. All in all, it looks like a fine draft to me. Nothing special but not bad by any means either.

Likely like Brissett where the way Syracuse wanted to use him wasn't what the NBA wanted him to put on display. I'll be curious to see if he actually opts to transfer rather than going pro though. I don't think he's likely to improve his draft stock with another season of college personally.