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BUT HE DOESN'T TURN THE BA... wait a minute....

The histrionics here are impressive. If Peterman is inept at throwing the football, then what exactly is Taylor? Because he's run one of the worst passing offenses in the NFL for the entirety of his career as a starter.

Absolutely right. In order to keep the "You can win with Tyrod" delusion going, they use a 5th round rookie QB and the stupid INT % stat -- simply because there is no other rational argument, evidence, or support for that ridiculous claim. It simple deflection from Tyrod to NP, since Tyrod's poor performance and prospects as a starter are indefensible. What is lost, however, is that by constantly drawing the comparison of a 7-year veteran to a 5th round rookie, it only makes Taylor look even worse. I mean, it's not like they can try to make the case for Taylor by comparing him to an actual good proven QB. Dude got smoked by Blake Bortles today. He's a great professional and a class act in the locker room, but he's a bad starting QB.

To Peterman's credit -- that kid has seen more ridiculous scenarios in his first season than any rookie could have ever expected. The 5 INT game, the Blizzard, and then getting thrown into the potentially game-winning drive in the last minute of a playoff game. I don't know what the future is for this kid, but he's earned at least next year to try and figure it out. I do think he has the potential for a much higher ceiling than Taylor, but that's really not saying much. There's probably 35-40 players in the league right now and coming in next year's draft that you could say the same thing about. I mean, if there are still idiots around that want to give Tyrod an 8th year to pretend to be a starting-calibre QB in the NFL, then NP deserves at least one more season to make a case for at least clipboard duty somewhere. Maybe he would have also had a couple of TD passes too. Or even 1. Taylor is a punting machine. What's really the difference in the end?

I'd be on board for this one. Good call -- didn't think of that.

He is a very-below average starting QB, and in reality is a high-end backup.

Because it's a wildly overrated stat that Taylor keeps artificially low by avoiding pretty much all NFL throws. Along with ridicule for Peterman's debut against the Chargers, it's literally all anyone has to stand on to make any case whatsoever for Taylor as a top 30 QB. He's a bad starting QB, and will be holding the clipboard somewhere else next season and rightfully so.

I thought you were referring to Taylor's passing ability overall. Regardless, my point still stands.

So, basically we have to use half the playbook because our JV QB throws the football like it's a baked ham.

Jeremy Roenick is weighing in. "Blake Brutles" & "Tyrod the Terrible" are absolutely incredible.

Great... I don't really care. You can use all the minutia you can find to make all the excuses you want -- the point is that this is borderline unwatchable because these two players should not be starting QBs in the NFL.

QB ratings at the half: Bortles: 47.9 Tyrod: 43.8

I apologize, I'm a little on the edge... like I said, sometimes you can't tell! That is with all sincerity, by the way. But yes, you can pretty much look up any player at any position for pretty much anything. You can even check for splits in specific weather conditions, game times, etc. It's a little ridiculous, now that I think about it. I just started messing around with this thing a few days ago, so I'm still not totally up to speed with it -- but it's a fascinating tool. A little clunky to use at first, but just play around with it for a little bit and it starts to make sense. Those stats for Taylor were pretty easy to come up with -- I just searched for games where the Bills had allowed more than 20 points or less than 20 points. I already knew the two games that TT didn't play, so I just didn't count those. For Luck's most recent seasons, the way I did it would be a little trickier since I have no idea what he's missed in his career. However, you'll still get a general idea of what his record looks like -- it probably just won't be 100% accurate. There's probably a better way to do it, I just haven't figured it out yet. Here are Luck's "20 points" lists for 2012-2014. I used those years simply because he played in all 16 games in each season, so it was easy to be accurate: Colts allow more than 20 - link - Luck was 13-14 Colts allow less than 20 - link - Luck was 20-1 Here's the link to the Index home page: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/

If you want to adjust the list, click on "show/hide search form" and then just change the team. Then hit "get results". The only thing is that you don't know for sure who started, so you have to just keep that in mind. For example, here's the Packers record when allowing more than 20. But Rodgers didn't play in a bunch of the 2017 games.

Tyrod Taylor's record when the defense allows more than 20 points? 3-18 Link Tyrod Taylor's record when the defense allows less than 20 points? 20-2 Link The league average for points against in 2017 was 21.7, in 2016 it was 22.8, and in 2015 it was 22.8. I can't tell if you're mocking me or not. Good thing it doesn't really matter. Discovering the PFR index tool the other day has been a real game-changer as far as my daily productivity is concerned. If you really haven't used it, go mess around with it for a few minutes. I included the 180 out of my own curiosity. The searches take about 30 seconds, so why not share?

Tyrod led the team to the point where they could benefit from someone like Andy Dalton actually making a heroic clutch throw. That officially put the Bills in the playoffs. But yes, you are correct -- Tyrod did lead them to the point where they needed lots of help to get in. Now, one could reasonably expect that if the Bills had a QB who was actually capable of running even the 25th ranked passing offense in the NFL, they would have won at least 1 or 2 more games and put themselves in the Wild Card. But hey, the Bills are in and it's going to be a great day tomorrow no matter what. They either beat the Jags and it's on to New England or it's the last time we have to see 5 under center for the Bills. Win-win!

The point is that Taylor at his absolute best has never been as good as Smith is tonight. They are not the same player. Alex Smith has a ceiling that Taylor can't even see. Also, it takes a lot more than scheme and coordinators to account for a 1600 yard & 11 TD difference in production.

Dude. Just watch the game and you can see that Taylor doesn't even play the same sport Smith is playing tonight.

Here you go: Total games with a passer rating under 40 from 2007-2017 -- here Total games with a passer rating under 40 from 2015-2017 (TT's three seasons) - here Total games with less than 180 passing yards from 2015-2017 - here

There have been 45 games in NFL history where a QB has thrown 6 or more INTs. Predictably, QBs who throw 6 or more INTs in a game have an abysmal 1-44 win/loss record. Only one team in NFL history has lost a game in which they intercepted the ball 6 times. I'll give you three guesses, but you'll only need one. The great George Blanda threw 6 INTs in the first game of the 1962 season and still managed to lead the Houston Oilers to a 28-23 victory on the road in Buffalo. Bonus! Blanda had 2 games that season with 6 INTs, and 3 total during his career. He joins Joe Namath (3), Norm Van Brocklin (2), Bobby Herbert (2), and Brian Sipe (2) as the only QBs to throw 6 or more INTs in a single game more than once. He is also the only QB to ever throw 6 INTs in a single game more than once in the same season. Full list available here. (Hey, just trying to pass the time until tomorrow.)

This is a great point. Probably the biggest contribution any of those guys could make tomorrow is to get ejected with Ramsey.

I don't remember the specifics, but I do vividly recall sitting there when Tony Romo started the final drive and that old familiar feeling of "Well, this one's over" came on. National TV. Big spotlight. Defense took 5 INTs from America's Team. Of course the Bills were going to lose it in an incredibly heartbreaking way.

Jalen Ramsey may not have to really do anything. This offense is able to shut down its WRs all on its own. I just want to see Taylor go to KB 10-12 times. 300 yards might not be what we want -- I actually kind of agree with this for this one game -- but he can't be sitting at sub-100 yards passing in the 4th quarter, either.